Salib Sinks To Austin’s Level (This is it)

October 29, 2006

I am sorry, I just can’t help myself. (Salib’s comments in BOLD and Austin’s indented.)

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish.

Pity you don’t take your own advice, Mikey!

Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act.

Well, then, this must be a different Islam than the one that Mohammed followed, because he was the first terrorist.

Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.

I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)

Don’t believe me?

Nope. Noone with a thinking brain would believe that tripe, Austin.

No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an.

I don’t NEED a translation.

Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!

A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God.

A religion of P–SY (sorry for the crudeness but hey, if the shoe fits) it is indeed with its sole purpose being

1- Sex, Sex, and more Sex
2- Killing
3- Making up fake stories to legitimize 1 & 2
4- Lies
5- Insanity

Austin, you obviously don’t know about the approved torture methods and killing methods of the real Moslems (which you aren’t, by the way). Have you ever watched a man have hooks put into him and then each hook pulled a different direction until the man is in segments? (I’m talking MEAT hooks, Austin.)

Have you ever seen a person (like poor Atwar Bahgat killed in the manner I’m going to share with you in a moment?

By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage.

It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear. …

A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.

Her cries “Ah, ah, ah” can be heard above the “Allahu Akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.

Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat. Her executioner suddenly stands up, his job only half done. A second man in a dark T-shirt and camouflage trousers places his right khaki boot on her abdomen and pushes down hard eight times, forcing a rush of blood from her wounds as she moves her head from right to left.

Only now does the executioner return to finish the task. He hacks off her head and drops it to the ground, then picks it up again and perches it on her bare chest so that it faces the film-maker in a grotesque parody of one of her pieces to camera.
By Halal Jabar

To be fair, some suspect this video of being a hoax that claimed the life of a Nepalese man instead of Bahgat, but is that any comfort? The animals still did horrible things to that victim. Moving on, though.

Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit?


Jesus Christ, who never killed one man in His life, and who was killed Himself… to save you, Michael.

As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom!

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You’re proving that Islam is the way because of what the American army has done 1400 YEARS AFTER ISLAM BEGAN??

Ok, who ever said that Bush and Christianity were interchangeable terms? I disagree with the “war” MORE THAN YOU DO, friend. Those are MY Arabic-speaking brothers there, and even if they pray to a different diety (and are mistaken beyond belief), I would never endorse the killing of anyone. It’s YOUR people who do that, Mikey. When they’re oppressed, I mean. End of story, period.

Shall we talk of Palestine next?

Yes, let’s!

Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority.

Your beef seems to be with the U.S.
Don’t you know that the nation America has a savior complex? The rulers think they can fix anything. And they usually try to ‘fix’ things that have lots of oil. Why doesn’t Bush try “helping” the people in Darfur or Ethiopia or others who are starving to death? I agree with you, American politics have got out of hand (I’m still a Republican, though, because of the Moral issues).

In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians.

Oh really? An Atrosity, you say? Well, actually, the Crusades may not have been the most shining of moments, but thank God in heaven for them, or else a bigger percentage of the world would be Muslim!

Do you consider the Arab invasion of Egypt, where my ancestors were threatened with having their tongues ripped out if they didn’t learn the Moslem language an atrocity? Do you consider the killing (by sword) of people who refused to convert an “atrocity”?

If you don’t, then you live in the Land of the Double Standard.
If you do, then you’re in the wrong religion, because baby, that’s what it’s all about.
I beg you to do some more research before promoting a religion that’s more terrifying than every horror movie ever put out there.

Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition?

Bring it.

Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain?

Hmm. I have an MD, and you converted INTO Islam. Let’s just leave it at that.

And for the record, your “argument” not only proves that the cement has migrated from your brain to your heart, but that you’re an honorary Arab, double standards and all.

Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts.

Reverts??? You mean people who used to be Moslem and then reverted to it?? I’m starting to doubt that English is your first language, Mike.

And by the way, you’re right for once–the true Islam is only carried out by a relative handful of people; Osama bin Laden and others like him. If you haven’t killed anyone in the name of “allah,” then you’re a poor excuse for a Moslem (and not just because your spelling and logical faculties.. “need work.”)

Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

Let’s see… Big Mo steals verses from Christian and Jewish scriptures. He promises a few idiots (whom no one would share a cab with, much less sleep with) around him that they can have all the food and sex and money that they want (before and after death), and they take him up on it. They go around raping and robbing and forcing conversions (sex and food and money on a platter, you might say) like a bunch of hairy pirates.
They are addicted to their new game, and devote their lives to spreading this “religion.”

I could go on, but I have to get to church soon. But I challenge YOU to look at how many Christians have been killed FOR THEIR FAITH. Forget American oil missions and the like. No one said they’re right.

Compare Jesus and Mohammed side by side. One killed no one, the other bathed in blood.
One never married and the other was such a sex maniac that he re-wrote his “scriptures” every time Junior reared his warped head. (If you don’t mind that he snatched his son’s wife, an old lady, and a 9 year old in the space of 10 years, then you’re a pedophilic sociopath and there’s no reasoning with you so I should just stop right now.)
One said “turn the other cheek” and the other said “slay the unbelievers where you find them.”
One said “wives submit to your husband as he submits to God” and the other said “allah has put men in charge of women because men excel women” and “if you get into a fight with the Mrs. then shun her, yell at her, or beat her.”

I mean, come off it, Michael. If you think “allah” condones these things, then you’re sadly mistaken. And if you can really look at your reflection in the mirror, or sleep peacefully at night after having defended these things, then you really and truly, as we say in Arabic, “ma3ndaksh damm.”

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8 Responses to “Salib Sinks To Austin’s Level (This is it)”

  1. Egypeter Says:

    Yes, Yes, Salib!!

    Very well said, my friend!

    I loved:

    “Do you consider the Arab invasion of Egypt, where my ancestors were threatened with having their tongues ripped out if they didn’t learn the Moslem language an atrocity? Do you consider the killing (by sword) of people who refused to convert an “atrocity”?”

    Very true. These were OUR ancestors that these crimes were commited against! Many of the insane Muslims in Egypt who hate their fellow Christian countrymen are so ignorant and stupid in their ways that they don’t realize that they, themselves, are descended from the Copts they want dead!!!

    -Did you know it was required that Copts dismount their horse if they saw a muslim next to them walking?

    -Do you know about the term “Adma za’ara?” or “Blue Bones?” Yes, it was because of the 10 pound cross all Christians had to wear around their necks in public, thus, the nickname.

    -Did you that Copts were not allowed to wear any clothes that wasn’t colored black in public? That’s why our clergy wear black till this day.

    These “ATROCITIES” go on and on and on. But poor Austin is blinded by his hate for Bush that he, not only converted to Islam, but doesn’t have a clue about the true HISTORICAL nature of Islam and the stark contrast b/w Mo and Jesus Christ. (By the way, his hatred makes me happy that I voted for Bush…TWICE!)

    Maybe to him this isn’t as much of an atrocity as America going to war to take out a ruthless dictator. What a sorry ass excuse!

    Maybe this Austin kid is really Adam Gadan. You know, Azzam el-Amreeki that’s part of Al Qaada. LOL.

    I guess, being a male, if I had no idea about Truth then I would choose to join Islam as well. It’s a man made religion MADE for MAN!!

    But thank sweet Jesus, you and I know the Truth Salib!! I will pray for poor Austin’s soul.

  2. Faisal Says:

    Your comments are as pathetic as you claim the original text that you’re commenting on is.

    I’m supposing that you’re Christian, but that doesn’t matter. If you were a friggin Buddhist, it still wouldn’t make a difference, apparently. If you criticize the man’s “claims” (and since I haven’t read the original article, I don’t know what he used to support his arguments) then use substance to do so…

    Not this pathetic pseudo-sarcastic ignorant mass of words that you wrote.

  3. ahmedsalib Says:

    Ignorance: not knowing about something before speaking on it.

    (Why would you comment on something you haven’t read? Or are you trying to show how unimportant I and my blog are by claiming you haven’t read the article? :-)

    It’s so easy to sit around and lob the word “pathetic” all over the place because name-calling is easier than doing the work. Why don’t you use substance to battle my pathetic claims? You’re only angry because you disagree with me. And if you tell me that you would demand substance from someone you agreed with–which isn’t a bad thing, of course–I am sure you would make them start at the basic, 101 level. Son, you’ve got to let go of this undergrad mentality you’re displaying. Attack the issue or the situation that is doing harm, not just aye7ad we bass keda. Rabena ye3a2alak ya 7abibi.

  4. blacklander Says:

    So what’s the pretext you’re hoping you’ll see forming? Egypt separated into a Coptic state and a Muslim one? Eradicating Islam along with your Arab-speaking brothers as you called them?
    There has to be a purpose, otherwise whatever you have to say is instantaneously reduced to disgruntled venting, which is ok.. people do all sorts of things to vent anger, I for one play sports. The most damage I could do playing squash is probably breaking my leg, but the tone and content of your ideas is precisely the kind of phrasing that aims at breaking a country, MY country. I’m a proud Egyptian, Muslim, and I’m not going to even attempt debating religion with you, I wouldn’t mind being on different parts of the hot/cold fence in the afterlife as long as we’re on the same side of the fence in this one. My side is Egypt’s, Egypt’s unity, Egypt’s strength, Egypt’s freedom. If Egypt’s best interest is not your single-most drive and motive, you couldn’t claim loving this country. If its interest is your drive though, then you would address more important issues other than history. Talk about human rights, talk about political freedom, talk about social injustices. At the end of the day religion is very abstract, but people’s lives -in a very real way- aren’t.
    You can fight windmills and stick to the abstract, or you could address more mundane issues that affect -for real- the lives of those whom you claim are your brothers and sisters.
    The choice you make decides if you’re one of those who spread futile hate messages, or might leave a positive mark in the history of this country, 7ateb2a anhi feehom?

  5. Faisal Says:

    Son eh bas ya 3am enta?

    So you’re going to be pathetic and patronizing? No, I haven’t read the article… just because I haven’t man. What you do with your blog is your business. I don’t agree with many ideas that many bloggers and people in real life give out.

    But I would never say anything as simple-minded as “I won’t read it because you suck and your blog does too” or anything along those lines.

    I will repeat this again, just in case you didn’t get it: Your arguments are as pathetic as those you claim to refute or make sarcastic remarks about because they say nothing.” We 3alashan tefham the supposedly undergrad mentalitly beta3tee ya baba, I’m talking about things like these:

    “Compare Jesus and Mohammed side by side. One killed no one, the other bathed in blood.”

    Are you serious? For the sake of argument, do you have proof that he bathed in blood? Do you have proof that he enjoyed these battles and all the deaths that occurred? (This is, of course, taking up the metaphorical meaning of the word as well as the literate?). You don’t seem to. You would have mentioned something…

    “I don’t NEED a translation.

    Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!”

    Why don’t you? How was it meant to be read? Explain. I’ve read large parts of the Qur’an. Lately, most of the reading I’ve been doing is when someone says: check out this aya… it says Muslims should kill all christians etc. Why don’t you explain how it’s supposed to be read? Why don’t you tell us what’s wrong with it. Enlighten the world ya 3am, eh el moshkela?

    “One never married and the other was such a sex maniac that he re-wrote his “scriptures” every time Junior reared his warped head. (If you don’t mind that he snatched his son’s wife, an old lady, and a 9 year old in the space of 10 years, then you’re a pedophilic sociopath and there’s no reasoning with you so I should just stop right now.)”

    He didn’t have any male sons. He was “promised” to the 9 year old you speak of. He only married her when she got to her teens. As for the old lady? Whom? Khadija? WTF? He was in his thirties when he first married… she was in her 40s… this happens EVEN NOW between Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists… what are you on about?

    “I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act?”

    And you ridicule the man’s English. Do you understand the meaning of the word oppression? Apparently not… go check it out in a dictionary, yalla ya… baba. Fehemt? Now, I don’t give a flying fuck what the Qur’an says here… but that was really silly. You had much better phrases to sarcastically comment on. It said oppression. Like with the British and the Americans and the war of independence? Like with the Indians and the British? Like with the Italiams and Libya? Like with the Russians and Poland? Like with the Germans and France? Like with the Japanese and Chinese and/or Koreans? Like with the Egyptians and the Sudanese? Like with the British and Persia?

    Do you get oppression? Do you get the idea of fighting against oppression. How on earth can you refute his argument, which was:

    “Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.”

    With:

    “I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)”

    That sounds nice. So the 200 Million Muslims in Indonesia and the Millions of other Muslims around the world are exempt from this? Because they’re obviously not Arab. Ba3dain what do you mean Arab men always feel oppressed? I can understand and agree with the concept of Arab men have “double standards”…

    But, your flagrant and all-encompassing accusation of Arab men is… pathetic. 7anhazar ya baba?

    I could do this with almost all of your comments on the article. I didn’t need to read the article to make these comments and formulate these opinions ON YOUR COMMENTS.

    Fehemt leih… ya baba?

    3al 3omoom, I think Blacklander’s tone, whilst much more civil than mine, is wasted on people who ignorantly preach the kind of stuff you’re talking about.

    Rabena Yehdeek… ya baba.

  6. ahmedsalib Says:

    Blacklander, thank you for your civil tone. My utmost wish that Egypt is a place of freedom, and that the people use the freedom for the ultimate good of others. I do not bring religion into my goals for Egypt, because I have no right to keep the Moslems from government just because they would keep us out. Also, I do not support any “Coptic” state other than the one we have now–I consider all Egyptians “Copts” but some of them have the religion of “Coptic Orthodoxy” and some are Moslems. The term should be for our lineage and blood, not for Identifying religions. Isn’;t that what we are trying to stop with the ID cards? I want us all to be standing in a line, holding hands and unable to tell the one from the other. Because at the end of the day, we are all Egyptians. This doesnt mean that I condone Islam, or should I say , the popular reading of Islam that has many Moslems hating Christians (maybe this doesn’t happen in some places, but it surely happens in others). I still consider myself a Christian first then an Egyptian, but I still consider you my brother, and Dr. Cohen down on Shara3 Fo2ad and Mr. Bahai’ from Heliopolis, etc. etc. etc.

    Ahhhh, ya seedy, te3ebt ba2a. Haro7 ashrably shay w’atfarag 3ala el akhbar. (Yes, ya Faisal, that’s what babas my age spend their evenings doing.)

    Salaam lakom,
    Salib


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  8. Faisal Says:

    You could do whatever you wish to do.

    Bas, lel zekra ya3nee, maradetsh 3alaya.


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