TUPAC SHAKUR VS JESUS CHRIST — “Rush” Takes On Salib

September 14, 2006

A misguided soul who thinks he knows more than the “prophet” (peace be upon him, because he REALLY needs it, and so does the modern world, whose awful state is the result of his egocentric and perverted “revelations” from “Allah,” who would probably strangle his most “holy” prophet if he had a chance) put the following comment in my “Mohammed vs Michael Jackson” posting (see my responses in the square brackets):

Rush Says:
September 13th, 2006 at 10:08 pm e
unfortunatly u dont seem from ur articles to be a person that read anything about islam..why dont u TRY and read prophit mohammeds history a LIL bit before u attack a holly prophit as if u have personal issues with him?

[That’s rich! *I* didn’t read about Islam?? If you DO NOT have personal issues with “the prophet,” then it is YOU who didn’t read about Islam, my friend!]

u comparinga holly prophit to MJ?? WHATS NEXT…TUPAC SHAKUR VS JESUS CHRIST COMPARISONS??

[No, Jesus actually practiced what He preached, whereas MOHAMMED PREACHED WHAT HE PRACTICED. Yes, he changed “allah’s” decrees to suit what was happening to him (mohammed) at the moment. If, in fact, ‘allah’ DID make those decrees, then 1- Islam is actually and truly about Mohammed more than ‘allah,’ and 2- THIS ALLAH MUST BE A DOLT to base a faith around a perverse man that I wouldn’t even let to be the doorman in my house, much less the high priest of an entire, world-dessicating religion.]

for real man..i wont even go low to ur level…

[You couldn’t hope to reach my level, hon..]

cuz fortunatly for u…unlike most muslims now..i studied my religion RIGHT…and we respect all prophits and religions wether u like it or not…and those idiots who claim to be muslims that act different and show hate and violence towards Christians even if only verbally WILL be punished in life and after death…because in reality, muslims have to protect all christian civilians living within an islamic nation and must treat them equal to muslims and they must be given the freedom to practise their religion in peace..

[By your words, you seem to be a caring and friendly and devout individual.. why would you dedicate your life and your soul to a false religion that will only end up with you in hell? Please, brother, I BEG you to read the Koran once, all in one sitting. If you don’t want to waste the time, I don’t blame you, but scroll down to read the verses that prove you wrong in your claim that Islam=peace.]

so those muslims u keep referring to are not true muslims..

[All the sheikhs aren’t true Muslims? Fascinating. Why don’t you email someone from Al Azhar and tell him that, I’m sure he’ll love it.]

just like hateful christians like you who attack other peoples religion are NOT real christians either…i dont think christianity pushes u to disrespect other peoples free will and religious believes…

[Ya Rush ya Habib el Koll, I am not hateful. I am speaking in a sad and resigned manner. My heart is breaking that you believe in a false religion.]

i know and respect UR religion more than you….so stop wasting all our time with this stupid ignorant BS…and people who are wasting time arguing with this air head who has no time t even back up his stupid stories with any evidence…let him go…

[1- here is evidence below (scroll down) and 2- YOU just wasted your time too in replying to me, so why don’t you practice what you preach? Or are you like your prophet in that, too..?]

he will lose his motive with lack of attention
BE GONE
salam

[I mean this 100%, but salaam to you too. Please scroll down, though..]

((((((((()))))))))

Just in case the switching above was confusing, here is an alternate reply from me:

Thanks, Rush, here’s hoping you won’t “rush” to judgment and that you will read what I have to say. First of all, I happen to know the Hadith and the “holy” Koran better than most Moslems could claim to.

If YOU knew it as well as I did, then you could not claim that Islam is a religion of peace unless you were either Mentally Retarded, or if you skipped the following verses (read ’em and weep.. Actually, we’re the ones who weep when we see that you really and truly believe this TRIPE called Islam!)

FROM your own scriptures (NOT the Hadith, which some don’t accept as the word of Allah):

Verses from the Koran:

VIII/12: When thy Lord inspired the angels (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

IX/5: Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor- due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

IX/73: Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil’s heads) – the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

IX/123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

IV/144: O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

IX/29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

VIII/65: “O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.”

And in terms of Islam’s Treatment of Women:

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will…

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness …confine them until death claims them.

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

[To men only, apparently..]

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies…

[Wow, even-handed there!]

Sorry, I wanted to pull out every filthy ‘verse’ in the Koran, but 1- I don’t have all year, and 2- I just had an excellent dinner, which is making my stomach immensely pleased, and I would rather not lose it..

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35 Responses to “TUPAC SHAKUR VS JESUS CHRIST — “Rush” Takes On Salib”

  1. Egypeter Says:

    I would love to see Rush’s response to your arguement.

    I think you laid out your arguement perfectly with citations from the Qur’an.

    What’s your answer Rush??

    A few lines by Rush made me laugh especially hard:

    “because in reality, muslims have to protect all christian civilians living within an islamic nation and must treat them equal to muslims and they must be given the freedom to practise their religion in peace..”

    -LOL. What “reality” is this? REALITY????! Where is this magical muslim country that treats other faiths well? Egypt? Saudi? Sudan? Iran? Afghanistan (remember Abdel Rahman?) Yemen? Pakistan? Where is this “protection” you speak of in muslim countries?

    If by “protection” you mean “getting your neck smited” then I understand.

    And this one was pretty good too:

    “so those muslims u keep referring to are not true muslims..”

    Who the hell are true muslims and why is it so hard to differentiate between a “good muslim” and a “lunatic terrorist?”

    So is Bin Laden a terrorist? What about Zawahiri or Zarqawi? Is Sayyid Qutb a good muslim or a fanatic? What about Sheikh Qardawi, is he a good muslim or terrorist???

    Anyway – good luck to you Rush in your quest for truth.

    God bless you Ahmed! May Jesus work miracles in the hearts of muslims.

    Salaam

  2. me Says:

    lol rush u couldnt answer this dude? sadd
    dudee if i give u a million dollars or maybe more…and tell u that u have to do nothing for me but just be the person to blame a event on…u dont have to crash a plane, or commit suicide or even sit in the plane and i guarantee ur safety…..how willing will u be to take the blame?
    thats binladen…some old ass desert dude with a ak-47 in his hand who didnt even need training for what he did…..lol all he did was shot a couple of clips with a camera man of him walking in the desert or aiming the gun at a target…
    america sends its ENTIRE ARMY to middle east and cant find ONE stupid man :S

  3. fuck u ignorant assholes Says:

    the reason “Rush” didnt answer this is because he realizes how big of a moron this guy is and no matter what he says it wont change his idiotic ignorant mind. And u pulled out all these verses from the quaron, dont u realize that arabic-english translation can be FAR MISLEADED because of the diffrent arabic verses and it could have been transfered twice, so these statements u say are extremly incorrect, in the quaron it says “Allah doesnt need you to fight his battles for him” under the section talking about Jihad, your minds have all been mislead by these FUCKING NEWS REPORTS, and this b-s “jihad jihad” and bombing. HOMICIDE AND SUICIDE ARE 2 OF THE BIGGEST SINS IN ISLAM, U DUMB MORONS. Kiss my ass you know more about the quaron then most muslims. ur just a moron who mis-interprets the religon and is mislead because of media. Obviously this wont affect ur thinking because ur stuck on the thought that muslims=death so, go lock urself in a room, because ur a disgrace to humanity. pitiful moron.

  4. ahmedsalib Says:

    1- You’re very smart to know I won’t change my idiotic ignorant mind.

    2- You’re right about the English version being far misleaded.

    3-I read and write Arabic like a pro (being a native and all that jazz) unlike other people, who keep spelling the name of the “scripture” as “QUARON”. Ahh, you were trying to make it rhyme with “moron”, were you? I understand..!

    4-These F@@@@ing news reports didn’t tell me anything I didn’t grow up with in Egypt.

    5-If homicide is a sin, then why did Allah in his “wisdom” tell Big Mo to “slay the infidels wherever ye find them”?? Oh, should I write it in Arabic so you can see what it says there?

    6-If Allah doesn’t need Moslems to fight his battles for him, then why do they even care about defending the name of the religion since it’s all gonna end the same?

    Man, I understand that you had to learn this since you were small, but please know that you were learning wrong things and being brainwashed since then. IT’s not too late for you, I’m praying for you, guy.
    Love and prayers,
    Salib

  5. fuck u ignorant assholes Says:

    wow, its pointless to even talk to u. everything u sya is a repeat of itself, so why even bother. and really, think what you want, but ur the one thats been brainwashed by media and influences of otheres. so goodluck to u in life.

  6. Ahmed Salib Says:

    Good luck to you in life.. you’ll need it as much as I will, since you’re as brainwashed with Islam as I am against Islam and for Christianity!

    (Notice the slight flavor of the herb “UcanDishItOutButUsurecan’tTakeIt!”)

  7. rdfx Says:

    “because in reality, muslims have to protect all christian civilians living within an islamic nation and must treat them equal to muslims and they must be given the freedom to practise their religion in peace..”
    -This is how Makkah was during Rasulullah reign.People leave peacefully no matter what religion there are.

  8. rdfx Says:

    To “AhmedSalib” no matter how idiot are you,why did ya still use Islamic name? Why dont you change to something like St Stoopid or else. You said you really know about Islam.Don’t make me laugh. You know Jesus is Nabi Isa right? Some stoopid follower betrayed him and change the Injil(Bible). Did you know that when the Judgement Day,Nabi Isa will return & destroy all the cross in the World right? All the Christians have been fooled by the flase image of Nabi Isa. You know about that right? You also know that one of the original Quran was been kept by the Pope in the Vatican.Did you know that?You should also know that there is hundreds of Rasul & Muhammad SAW is the last one after Isa right? Please,you need to read all of Zabur,Taurat,Injil & Quran again.

  9. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    “AHMED” why the fuck is your first name a Muslim name? Are you confused you stupid motherfucker…! I don’t believe in Islam or Christianity but i can see you are one twisted angry fagot that maybe had a girl (if your interested in girls)and a Muslim came along and took her from you, and you can only sit hide behind a computer screen and talk bad shit about other peoples religion. I pray that one day you cross my path cause I WILL beat the living shit out and then you will pray to Jesus to let you in his gates… but I don’t think he will cause in your Religion your not SUPPOSED to Judge others and that’s all you do.

    “AHMED” Suck a dick… that will shut you up at least for a little while

    Salaam

  10. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    Ohh… by the way, Salib’s a fagot

  11. ahmedsalib Says:

    Dear Salib Hater, I think your problem is that you actually do hate the salib, not me. I will pray extensively that God will cool your fiery spirit and soothe your pained soul.

    By the way, if you think I hide behind a computer screen, you have another thing coming, because I regularly appear on Television and am a panelist on news programs and talk shows. Of course, I use a different name when I do, but my face and voice are out there.

    Is this the deed of a coward? No! I fear nothing now or ever, for the LORD is my strength and my shield, my protector and my beloved and my savior and my master and my father and my king… and my friend.

    PRAISE be to Him for His mercy and grace in filling all these roles!!

    Sweeter than honey are His words and name and His laws to my mouth, I hope one day you will “taste and see that the Lord is good.”

    Blessings,
    Salib

  12. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    why dont you tell me and all the people that view this site who you really are or who you are on TV if your not a coward? tell us, PLEASE, if you want to clear yourself from the reputation of a coward because it is clear to me that you are contradicting yourself in everything you say… if your not really a coward.. tell me right now who you really are.. or are you scared like a coward??? After all everyone should suffer the consequences of their actions… especially you. who do you think you are to criticise ANY religion.. you have some nerve. it is also clear to me that you are a very ignorant person.. boarden your mind… please im concerned for you… Yeah right! i hope you get exactly what you deserve.. and let me tell you i dont want you to get more than you deserve just exactly what you deserve… coz believe me that will be plenty.. and by the way you should have fear and i KNOW you do that is why you dont tell us your TRUE identity.. you should fear life on earth for what people would like to do to you and the after life coz in your religion you should NEVER judge anyone as God is the only one to judge… you are an absolute HYPOCRITE.. and you will suffer the consequences… so please if your not a coward which i KNOW YOU ARE… prove me wrong.. tell me your real name. And by the way i dont want your blessings and i dont need them your a bad person with a poisoned mind and heart.. i will only take blessings from a pure being and blessings that mean something ur dont mean shit.. im a better person than you i know i have a much pure heart and mind.. once again.. dont be the bitch that you have always been so far… PROVE ME WRONG. and by the way i dont hate the Salib i dont hate anything… apart from evil… like you

  13. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    COWARD! hahahahahahaha COWARD! COWARD! COWARD! COWARD! COWARD! look every1 he “AHMED SALIB” still hasn’t told us his real name.. hopefully the reason is because he has finally got exactly what he deserves. COWARD!

  14. Copt Says:

    To Salib Hater, why don’t you put your name and address and phone number first before calling Ahmed a coward?
    Be a man you coward and let’s see your real face so we can kick your ass and teach you a lesson!
    Conclusion: you’re not just a coward, but an idiot as well!

  15. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    First of all U IDIOT… in case you havent noticed im am not the person or should i say coward… that has dedicated a whole entire site to obliterating a religion coz i would never do that U fucken idiot u have nothing on me NOTHING… go suck “AHMED SALIB’s” dick u cock sucker… so why the fuck should i put my real name and address… in case you didn’t understand my last message since UR THE IDIOT THAT SUCKS OFF “AHMED SALIB” i am not going to give him what he deserves i am going to give the honours to who he has offended… both the people of Islam and also God… whether it be one or both of them who give him exactly what he deserves so be it… another thing ‘Copt’ im not gonna give my address where i live with my family… u no u should never bring family in2 it… but i will tell you my name since i KNOW and trust me every1 who knows me will agree… no matter who you are where your from or who you know i will do MORE than KICK UR ASS a lot more so dont try n threaten me you weak piece of shit my name is George Khamous… come after me im waiting…

  16. Salib H8TR NOT Christian H8TR Says:

    now… back to “Ahmed” Salib… You really are dumb…. let me tell you why…look at what you have posted on your website (i’m quoting you) “Please don’t think I’m a hater, I just want Peace on earth, and obliterating Islam is the only way to do it.” YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!! how could that be possible?.. there will NEVER be peace while or after obliterating a religion… obviously you would have to kill the people belonging to the religion to obliterate it! I would hope “ahmed” that you would not be suggesting some type of genocide! You are a really evil person… and ANYONE who supports this COWARD is evil.. Such as “COPT”. NO TRUE CHRISTIAN RELIGION NOR TRUE CHRISTIAN condones this mentality, behaviour or action…why dont you stop preaching Mr Salib since your NO-ONE to be preaching and check yourself into a mental institution.. you MAJNOUN!!! hahahaha… and another thing, if you are so eager on obliterating Islam… STOP USING A MUSLIM NAME YOU IDIOT… You are putting down a name with a holy meaning… i have got a really good idea maybe you should set up another website based on obliterating yourself and your UGLY UGLY UGLY followers… after all they don’t follow God or HIS words thay follow YOURS which are EVIL and HATEFUL… so you have yourself a little evil cult… YOU AND YOUR SUPPORTERS SHOULD NOT CALL YOURSELVES CHRISTIANS YOUR GIVING THE RELIGION A BAD NAME.. you should all be ashamed of yourselves!!! GO TO HELL!!! i’m sure you will anyway!!! HEY COPT, SUCK A DICK, OH SORRY YOUR BUSY SUCKING MR. SALIB’S. HAHA BBBBYYYYYEEEEE

  17. 1029883298 Says:

    “be the change that you want to see”- Ghandi.
    U dumbass if ur going to be all peaceful and gentle online, then why tha fuck are u giving the muslims a bad name. If ur acting nice and shit in one area than do the same for another , if u consider urself sanitary and a follower of god, than start practicin the rules people who are actually go by, look at own dirty ass before judging other u deluded fool, Ahmed Salib i hope u die a slow and painful death, and right when ur eyes are about to permanently close u realize the truth about islam

  18. tor Says:

    tupac=2021/16/13
    t u p ac
    the return, the birth, and death of tupac
    it is real he is the j-man you know what i mean for i know and i know all for we are the one that will come.
    please believe i can tell you more and help you understand.

  19. shame on you Says:

    The ethic of reciprocity or “The Golden Rule” is a fundamental moral principle found in virtually all major religions and cultures, which simply means “treat others as you would like to be treated.” all of the people argueing that “your” religion is superior then the other, your as idiotic as each other. You should read god book from each others religion its not very different their actually pretty similiar!


  20. ‘obviously you would have to kill the people belonging to the religion to obliterate it!’

    Hardly, just by holding up a mirror to a ridiculous ideology with clear-headed witty sites like this, more muslims will become apostates and more human and nice and friendly. Between 15-20% of muslims who live in the west leave islam and this positive life-affirming trend will doubtless grow.

    Personally as a cultural Christian, I don’t care if they join another religion or become Humanists, whatever, as long as they do not threaten hard won and treasured freedoms.

    Something to make other dumbo muslim posters splutter into their halal cornflakes:
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19107

  21. hasan Says:

    what are you talking about tupac never said he knows more then any prophit be sure of what you say befor you say it!!

  22. hasan Says:

    & about that the person who called muslims dombo go lern about ur religon then come & talk about another & call them name!!

  23. Xzylity Says:

    Well, I can say that the mankind is for a spacific value. It´s just like a child that wakes up every morning to see its parents, and thus the parents wakes to catter to the child. The light of humanity was ignited by our believe, and that´s why we´ve got no right to repel or retorte ones religion under aguements. Now my points seemed: that even a lunitic could do so-wise hitting holes in a basket, than worsen with time to prove of your right religion. Even though both The Holy Scriptures condamned Idolaters, well, hell! so the Idolaters give a damn of The Holy Scripture in case; both Bible and Koran. And now, can any Idolater prove to serve the Almighty God! (HELL YEAH! They would die if They have to preper a FAITH toward His BELIEF). Well the name the parents gave to a Child, will be RIGHT to the Child:

  24. klinary Says:

    thy shalt not comdemn ones idol.

  25. bugsy Says:

    ahmed salib rules the world, and that’s all there is to it.


  26. it all comes down to this practise what u preach.who can argue to that and all u people who dnt should put ur head to shame

  27. Random Says:

    i found this site completely by random searching for Tu Pac things, look guys its important to take the best from what every religion has to offer, you cant choose to which religion you are born into but you can choose how you live and in the end like Tu Pac says “only god can judge me”. If you just forget what each religion tells you about everyone who doesn believe in that perticular scripture is going to hell, bla bla bla, and just ask yourself, would god be happy with me as a human being? would the good outweigh the evil in your life if you were judged right now…

    In the end every “prophet” is human, mohamed, jesus, buddah, they could all have made mistakes, and dont argue that any scripture was writen by god, if god went around writing scriptures what made him suddenly stop doing it? scriptures were sriten through people from god and maby something could have been misstold in the translation

  28. ocovjugukjaq Says:

    paris hilton blowjob

  29. Anonymous Says:

    jesus is my hero

  30. jermaine Says:

    tupac was christian

  31. Chub Says:

    hay guys why the big argument for, are you all so ignorant and not accepting towards each other. I myself am a lebanese catholic, and being so i know alot of lebanese muslims and non lebanese catholics. Evil or bad doings dont have a religion or race.

    To the catholics out there are SOME good muslims, jst keep an open mind and accept them. It is wrong to trn anyone away based on their religion.

  32. aida Says:

    u people who disrespect religions u can do it all you want ur da devils n r gna burn in hell FOREVER islam is a beautiful religion wer not killers or liers wer good people and believe in allah and if u have a proplem with us believing in wat we want then my friend u have serioussss isuesssss coz u got nuffn better to do then make people not believe and be jst like u a asssssshooole sowii not gna happen we love our religion and its gna keep growing if we respect every religion y cant u guys wer all humans wer all equal im muslim i dont noe much about islam im still learning buh i love my religion and i do believe in allah im not da smartest person but i noe its wrong disrespecting religions and not believn in god cuz with out believen ur life is nuthn

  33. astapull Says:

    Islam is a religion of peace calls for peace if were not Muslim require more time to understand there is no god but allah and Mohammed Messenger of allah


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