Unpopular Arab Thoughts That All Arabs Have Thought

From Dr. J. Ahmed Salib

Dear Sirs and/or Madames:

It has come to my attention that you have, in a recent post, decried a website bearing the articles of myself and my colleague, Sarah Ghorab. The website belongs to Faith Freedom, and the posting is here: http://www.freekareem.org/2007/07/02/our-campaign-is-not-associated-with-faith-freedom/ .

I fully agree that you have the right to associate or break with whomever you see fit, whether personally or professionally. What I do not agree with is the repulsive manner in which you went about effecting this break. I say “break” because your citation of my article above was not the first mention you have made, however distasteful my article may have been to you.

To this end, I must respond to the charges, state my rebuttal, and express my feelings on this matter.

To begin with, I have never signed on with Faith Freedom. I am not decrying them in the least, but I did not sign up with them or with any other organization.

That is to say I am not affiliated with any association or website or publication except my website, www.ahmedsalib.com .

I have (gratefully) noticed that numerous websites have picked up some of my articles, and while a few have asked permission (or gone as far as requesting my take on something) a great majority have done so without my knowledge or express permission (they have it, however).

In fact, I don’t seem to recall allowing you to post my translation of Kareem’s “incriminating” essay on your site.

I don’t blame you for having nicked it, my translation was far and away the most accurate and literal one your site has ever posted (you really must look into getting better translation software, some of your Arabic-to-English’s have been abominable).

What I do blame you for is for having the nerve to post my words—not a link to them, mind, but the actual words—while providing an unfriendly disclaimer against my analysis.

Let’s now take a trip back in time, just in case you forgot what you said:

“DISCLAIMER: The creators of the Free Kareem campaign would like to stress the fact that they do not agree with the contents of this article.”

Please. Don’t give yourself airs. Nobody’s visiting the site to hear what you have to say, they just care about young Kareem and his fate. You’re a non-entity. Important (in this case) only for the news you carry. A vessel or a channel.

What’s more, you could have been kinder in denouncing the views stated in my article, especially when I have not said anything (literally) that Kareem hasn’t said himself.

Very interesting, is it not, that you should defend Kareem’s right to say it—in a Moslem country, no less—but not me in the West.

If I didn’t know better, I’d say you were using him as a “cause” to attract attention to yourselves, whether for worldwide fame or your resumes or to feel that you really did make a difference in the world (longing to break free of your vessel-tude, are we?)… or to show how open-minded you are—that the maligned would stand up to defend the speech of someone who maligned them. How magnanimous!

While I’m on that subject, it also feels, at times—and maybe I’m the only one that feels this way, and if so, I’ll shut up—that you’re using the platform you’ve ill-obtained in order to make frequent judgment calls and disseminate false information.

Not about Kareem, for you’ve done a great job in that respect. The false information is rather the image you’re trying to cloak Islam in. If Islam were as you purport, a haven of freedom, I’d be the first to defend it. (And my beef with you today is nothing to do with Islam, though because you seem to enjoy being the voice of Moderate Modern Islam, I have to confront this issue.)

The truth, though, remains that no self respecting mufti or imam would agree with the level of tolerance you’d like us to believe you have. Not that you’re tolerant of people like me, which basically puts you in the same boat as an American “liberal” who will defend atheists and gays and pagans and, yes, Moslems—but try to restrict or at least be intolerant of Christians and our rights.

Personally I prefer the death threats and disgust that some Moslems toss my way, at least they’re honest about it (as I am, when writing my thoughts on and arguments against your religion).

Can’t everyone just live and let live? There’s a tiny (alright, miniscule-ly infinitesimal) chance that it’s Islam that’s right and if so, maybe I’m OK with being an infidel.

Maybe I don’t want to go to heaven (have a look at this article of the same name, since you love my work so much: http://ahmedsalib.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/maybe-i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-go-to-heaven/); can’t you be pro-choice and let me choose hell?

Or, more to the point, can’t you quote my article without bellyaching about how you disagree?

Be a man. This is how to do it:

“Have a look at the translation on this article (their opinions are their own, by the way).”

There, was that so painful? Did that make you look like less of a devout Moslem because you mentioned an anti-Moslem page without breaking into death threats? If that is the case, then I’d seriously call into question what sort of religion you belong to, but I will save that for my next article.

In closing, I am unhappy at your opportunistic (and theatrically reluctant) use of my translation, your unfair lumping of us with Faith Freedom (only because you seem to posit Sara and I as ambassadors for them, when we’re just private citizens), and your coattail-riding (especially sad, since a young man’s health and very life are the cost of your fame).

I could have added the sin of “disrespecting the writer who pulled the lid off the case in the Western world” to your list of offences, only that’s beneath me. (And yes, my article was the first english-language non-press release non-blog post bona fide ARTICLE that appeared, right after his expulsion in 2006.)

I am sorry to say that the way you have handled your campaign may turn people off to Kareem’s cause. Your page is consistently sanctimonious, and could never be called objective or unbiased.

Perhaps my work isn’t either, but at least I am not using a poor helpless and wrongly imprisoned boy as a front for my feisty pieces.

It is with sadness that I close this letter. Sadness because your campaign was more unbiased and fact based when you first began and your fame has gone to your head.

Remember always that this good cause (freedom in general and Kareem in particular) does not belong to you, and that while you may have done stacks of work to promote it, while I may have written the first proper article about it in english, it would have made its way to hundreds of papers on its own strength, without either of us.

Despite my distaste for your ploys, I do still wish Kareem the best, and continue to daily pray for him.

And I wish you a speedy recovery from the hydrocephalus that you’ve recently contracted.

Best wishes,
J. Ahmed Salib
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PS—
I expect that you will either totally ignore this letter, or else share it among yourselves and be outraged and “Can you BELIEVE that guy??” and “We’re SO persecuted, and all we’re trying to do is help!” for days. I briefly considered including another possible mode of action, one where you post this and collect sympathy from your fans/warn them against me, but I don’t think you’re that far gone. I also toyed with the notion of including the possibility that you may remove all mentions of me and my work on your site, but again, that would undermine what we’re all trying to expediently do in different ways such as writing, collecting info, getting the word out, holding rallies, speaking to congress, et cetera.
Let’s call a truce and agree to disagree, ok?

By Ali Sina

One of the most obvious mathematical mistakes of the Quran can be found in the division of the inheritance.

The laws of inheritance are spread out in several Suras. One can find references to them in Al-Baqarah(2), Al-Maidah(5) and Al-Anfal(8). But the details of these laws are spelled out in the Surah Nisa (4).

Q. 4:11
“Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children’s (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases (’s) after the payment of legacies and debts…”

Q. 4: 12
“In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts…”

Q. 4:176
“If it is a man that dies, leaving a sister but no child, she shall have half the inheritance: If (such a deceased was) a woman, who left no child, Her brother takes her inheritance: If there are two sisters, they shall have two-thirds of the inheritance (between them): if there are brothers and sisters, (they share), the male having twice the share of the female. Thus doth Allah make clear to you (His law), lest ye err. And Allah hath knowledge of all things.”

Despite the fact that it says “Allah made them clear”, these laws are far from clear.

Verse 4:11 says that if a man has only one daughter, she gets half of the inheritance irrespective of other heirs. But since the same verse says that the portion of the male is twice that of the female, her brother is supposed to get all the inheritance. Isn’t this a discrepancy? Certainly there is an error in how this law is written. Yet the problem is aggravated further when the share of other heirs like parents and wives are taken into consideration.

There are cases when the total of the shares assigned to the heirs exceeds the patrimony. Take for example the following.

According to the above verses, if a man dies leaving behind a wife, three daughters and his two parents,

His wife’s share of his inheritance is 1/8. (In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth)

His daughters would receive 2/3 (if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance;)

and his parents each will get 1/6 of his inheritance. (For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children;)

When you add all these fractions the sum is more than the total of inheritance.

Wife1/8 = 3/24
Daughters 2/3 = 16/24
Father 1/6 = 4/24
Mother1/6 = 4/24
Total = 27/24

Now take another example. Say a man is survived by his wife, his mother and his sisters.

The wife receives 1/4 of the inheritance, (In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child;)

the mother 1/3 (if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the heirs, the mother has a third;)

and the sisters 2/3. (If there are two sisters, they shall have two-thirds of the inheritance (between them)

When we add up these fractions they too are more than the total.

Wife1/4 = 3/12
Mother 1/3 = 4/12
Sisters 2/3 = 8/12
Total = 15/12

In the above examples, the shares apportioned to the heirs exceed the total of the inheritance. In both cases the total of the inheritance sums to exactly one BEFORE taking into account the wife’s share.

What should be done if a man has two wives, one with children and the other without children? Does the one with children receive 1/8 and the one without children 1/4? And is this justice?

Now suppose a woman dies leaving a husband and a brother:

Husband receives half (In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child.)

Brother receives everything (If (such a deceased was) a woman, who left no child, Her brother takes her inheritance.)

Does this mean that the parents, sisters and husband do not get anything? In that case where is the justice and if they do how can the brother get everything?

Husband, (1/2) = 1/2
Brother (everything) = 2/2
Total = 3/2

This verse does not specify that the brother gets everything only when there are no other heirs. It just says when there are no children he gets everything. In the same verse it says that if a man dies leaving a sister, she gets half. What will happen to the other half?

Here is another example: A woman leaves behind a husband, a sister and a mother.

Husband, (1/2) = 3/6
Sister (1/2) = 3/6
Mother (1/3) = 2/6
Total = 8/6

We can conclude that the Quran in matters of inheritance is very obtuse. It is so obtuse that Shiites and Sunnis practice this law differently. For example:

If a man leaves a wife and the two parents, the Shiits will give the wife 1/4 and then distribute the remainder as 1/3 for the mother and 2/3 for the father, i.e. they will receive 1/4 and 1/2 of the original estate (see #2741). Sunnis give the wife 1/4, the mother 1/3 and the father as the nearest male relative the rest, i.e. 5/12. As one can witness, the Quran is anything but clear.

In order to solve these problems the Islamic doctors of law have devised a complex “science” called “Al-Fara’id”. It contains rules of “Awl” and “Usbah,” and the laws of “Usool” of the Fara’id, the laws of “Hajb wa Hirman,” and many other issues relating to this matter.

The laws of “Awl” (accommodation) deals with cases when the inheritor’s shares exceed or “overshoot” the sum of the total inheritance. In such case the shares are adjusted to accommodate everyone. This is how it works:

Wife1/8 = 3/24 is changed to 3/27
Daughters 2/3 = 16/24 is changed to 16/27
Father 1/6 = 4/24 is changed to 4/27
Mother1/6 = 4/24 is changed to 4/27
Total = 27/24 27/27

and for the second case,

Wife1/4 = 3/12 is changed to 3/15
Mother 1/3 = 4/12 is changed to 4/15
Sisters 2/3 = 8/12 is changed to 8/15
Total = 15/12 15/15

Thus the problem is solved thanks to human ingenuity but the portions are not the same as indicated in the Quran. Each party has to waive part of his or her share in order to make this law work. This is a clear case in which the words of Allah needed human intervention in order to become applicable.

There are yet cases when the shares of the inheritors do not sum to a whole 100% and there is a surplus left.

Take for example a man who dies and leaves his wife and his parents.

Parents 1/3 = 4/12
Wife 1/4 = 3/12
Total = 7/12

Who will receive the balance 5/12 of the inheritance?

The following are other cases that after the distribution, there is a surplus of Inheritance::

scenario fund distributed surplus
Only a wife: = 1/4 3/4
Only a mother: = 1/3 2/3
Only a daughter = 1/2 1/2
Two daughters = 2/3 1/3
Only a Sister = 1/2 1/2
A mother and a sister = 1/3 + 1/2 = 5/6 1/6
A wife and a mother = 1/4 + 1/3 = 5/12 7/12
A sister and a wife = 1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 1/4

In all these cases and many other combinations there is a surplus. What will happen to this surplus? Who will inherit it?

To deal with this problem the law of “Usbah” comes to effect. This law is to regulate the unclaimed shares, which have no corresponding people to receive them. Of course if the Quran was clear with no errors, there would have been no need for all these “sciences” and amendments.

The law of Usbah is based on the following Hadith.

Sahih Bukhari 8. 80. 724
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
The Prophet said, “Give the Fara’id (the shares of the inheritance that are prescribed in the Qur’an) to those who are entitled to receive it. Then whatever remains, should be given to the closest male relative of the deceased.”

According to this law, a man who dies and is survived by only his daughter with no other close male relative except a second cousin, his daughter will receive half of his inheritance and the other half will go to the man’s second cousin. This seems quite unfair to the daughter, but it would be especially unfair if the man had a needy aunt or a female first cousin that would receive nothing because they are of the wrong gender.

Now suppose that a man has no other heir except his wife and a distant male relative. The wife will receive 1/4 and the distant male relative gets the balance, i.e. three times the inheritance that his widowed wife gets. Is this justice?

What if the deceased has no male relative at all? What will happen to the rest of his inheritance? What happens in the reverse case when a wife has no relatives? The husband will receive half of her inheritance; who will get the other half?

Note that in the Quran there is no priority for the distribution of the inheritance. In nowhere it says “first give to these and from what is left, give to those”. Even if we had to reinterpret these laws and prioritize them in the order that they are mentioned, it still does not work because in that case, each subsequent inheritor will have his or her share shrunk. Also in most cases the total inheritance will never be used up.

This is the fallacy in which Mr. Sami Zaatari engages. In an attempt to refute this article Mr. Zaatari wrote: “If A [ the deceased] left a widow or widower, the widow’s or widower’s share would first be calculated as in the first half of verse 4:1″

Mr. Zaatari must show us this instruction in the Quran. There is no provision in the Quran to pay certain inheritors first and divide the rest among other heirs. The fact remains that the Quran in matters of the division of the inheritance is wrong mathematically.

The obtuseness of these laws of inheritance is further emphasized in the following example. Consider the case of a man with only one daughter and 10 sons. According to the Quran, the daughter receives half while all the sons must share among themselves the other half. So each will receive not more than 1/20 of the inheritance. But this would contradict the other ruling that a male is to receive twice the share of the female.

Of course for 1400 years Muslims have practiced Islam and somehow they managed to make these confusing laws work. How they did it? They reinterpreted, adjusted and compromised to make sense of these nonsense laws. They put all the inheritance in a pool and gave to each male child twice the share of their female siblings. This solution, though satisfies one of the ruling of the Quran about the inheritance, it contradicts the other.

Despite all these incongruencies and errors the real problem with these laws is not the fact that they do not add up. The problem is in the inherent injustice that they embody. A fair minded person cannot avoid but to question, why daughters should receive half of what the sons receive? Why sisters receive less than brothers? And why a widower is entitled to double the share than a widow? Why the Quran states “to the male, a portion equal to that of two females”? (4:11). Think of a man with four wives. All the wives have to share the ¼ of his wealth, if he has no children and 1/8 if he has. In the first case each wife will receive 1/16 of the inheritance and in the second case 1/32. How a woman who may not be young enough to remarry can survive with such meager share in a male dominated society as Islamic countries? On the other hand a man who loses all his four wives will inherit half to ¼ of every wife’s wealth. Isn’t this the formula to enrich the men and impoverish the women? It is easier to forget the mathematical errors of the Quran than forgive its injustice.

The verse (4:175) claims that “Thus doth Allah make clear to you (His law), lest ye err. And Allah hath knowledge of all things.” As we saw, the above laws are anything but clear. They do not add up, the portions are not clearly defined, and the shares are distributed unfairly. It is up to Muslims to decide whether Allah, does not have the “knowledge of all things”, cannot add simple fractions, is confused and unfair or that the Quran is mistaken, and Muhammad was not a prophet of God. It is one or the other. You decide.

I am sorry to report that because of the irrelevant and egregious name-calling inspired by my brilliant work, I will have to hold all comments for approval. This will, in fact, slow things down to the tune of once or twice a week (I am a doctor with three thriving practices).

Consider this a time-out for now. I hope I will not have to do any grounding (removal of any comments alltogether) but I would definitely do it. We are here to learn from one another and have a civilized discussion, not beat one another to a bloody pulp.

Please always remember that you are an ambassador of your religion, and when you do something wrong, there are dozens of people waiting to pounce on you and go on about how your whole religion is invalid because you did this one sin.

Also, remember that there are so many people who call themselves Christians, Moslems, Jews, Pagans, etc.–who don’t live it, who don’t deserve to call themselves these things.

If you are a Moslem, you should not drink, smoke, be alone with a non-related male (if female), have any non-Moslem friends, have slaves, and you SHOULD be vigilant for people to convert, slaying the infidels where ye find them.

Christians, do not call yourself that unless you believe Jesus is the only way, truth and life, unless you do not have sex outside of marriage, get drunk, take drugs, use profanity, unless you refrain from anger, bitterness, malice, etc.

Of course we Christians are not perfect, but we should view these things as wrong and make an effort to keep away from them. (I thank God every day that I don’t have to kill people in order to be devout..)

Anyway, ‘Byez, Guyz’ and I hope you will behave from now on. Oh, and if I like your comment except for one mean or hateful part, then I will have to edit the comment, take out the bad part, and I might have to replace it with a pat on the back to me, so have a care.

(It seems the first time did not post, I did not want this to go unposted, hence the re-post. Sorry for inconvenience, but it won’t hurt you to read it twice!! JAS MD)

This is to those people who are intent on calling each other ‘dumb’ (and other variants thereof) for being either Christian or Muslim. So you will know, I have NOT READ any of the comments, but some mean words caught my eye and since I own this site, I have to make sure everyone is respectful about voicing their opinion.

Muslims, don’t you know that when you patronizingly call us infidels and idiots in the name of your ‘religion,’ you just prove how hateful Islam really is?

And Christians, shouldn’t you behave in love and avoid meanness and cruelty? Moslems are the victims here. They are the victims of a perverted pervert who spun a dream that they are only happy to follow because it legitimizes their base desires of hate, violence and sex. Imagine a puppy that vomited on the floor because he just had a vaccine. Would you get mad and yell at him for the indiscretion, or would you gather him up in your arms and hug him, trying to help him (feel better in this case) from his problems? Moslems are like children who were raised by wolves. They are hungry for blood because that’s all they’ve ever known, but underneath lies a heart and intellect that can be appealed to… and prayed for. I would gladly lay down my life (an imperfect, unholy and unworthy sacrifice, I know) in order to make these people see reason. And while I might sometimes bristle at their tone, I constantly try to remind myself that I am dealing with people who are infected with rabies. Jesus is the Great Vetrinarian who can counteract all of the poison and disease with his True and Perfect Love.

I ask all of you fellow believers out there to join with me in prayer right now, both for the salvation of our Moslem bretheren, as well as our own kindness and tolerance in the face of the cancer/disease that is ISLAM.

LOVE TO EACH OF YOU,
Salib

This is to those people who are intent on calling each other ‘dumb’ (and other variants thereof) for being either Christian or Muslim. So you will know, I have NOT READ any of the comments, but some mean words caught my eye and since I own this site, I have to make sure everyone is respectful about voicing their opinion.

Muslims, don’t you know that when you patronizingly call us infidels and idiots in the name of your ‘religion,’ you just prove how hateful Islam really is?

And Christians, shouldn’t you behave in love and avoid meanness and cruelty? Moslems are the victims here. They are the victims of a perverted pervert who spun a dream that they are only happy to follow because it legitimizes their base desires of hate, violence and sex. Imagine a puppy that vomited on the floor because he just had a vaccine. Would you get mad and yell at him for the indiscretion, or would you gather him up in your arms and hug him, trying to help him (feel better in this case) from his problems? Moslems are like children who were raised by wolves. They are hungry for blood because that’s all they’ve ever known, but underneath lies a heart and intellect that can be appealed to… and prayed for. I would gladly lay down my life (an imperfect, unholy and unworthy sacrifice, I know) in order to make these people see reason. And while I might sometimes bristle at their tone, I constantly try to remind myself that I am dealing with people who are infected with rabies. Jesus is the Great Vetrinarian who can counteract all of the poison and disease with his True and Perfect Love.

I ask all of you fellow believers out there to join with me in prayer right now, both for the salvation of our Moslem bretheren, as well as our own kindness and tolerance in the face of the cancer/disease that is ISLAM.

LOVE TO EACH OF YOU,
Salib

I was reading over the comments, which I don’t usually have the luxury to do, and came across this comment battle in the post for
Black Converts to Islam are a Joke to the Arab Moslems post from last year, and thought you might be interested in checking it out.

Let it be known that Salib doesn’t necessarily agree with any or all of it, just putting it in front of those who are interested in reading it.

Let it also be known that converts can sometimes be tighter-clinging or more fanatical than people who were brought up with this cult. (To prove to others–and themselves–how “righteous” they are.)

Also, people who spent much of their cognizant life (maybe over 14 or something) in a non-Islamic country (like the US) sometimes feel “Ma2to3een men el shagara” (like a branch torn from the tree) and either don’t know the worse aspects of this perverse “religion”, or else sometimes they can even feel that getting closer to Islam is a way of getting closer to their cultural roots. I have even seen Egyptian Protestants raised in America (rather than Egypt) converting to Coptic Orthodoxy so as to feel closer to their heritage that wasn’t stripped away from when the white man came over to convert the little Egyptians.

I guess we always want what we don’t have, eh?

Peace.
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Jaz Says:
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:01 pm e
I am a white male myself who converted 2 islam and all my arab friends tell me not 2 practice it poorly like the blacks do…damn i wasnt even expectin that comment but it happened and in ways it is true. Most blacks do not practice it right and still act like animals in public and still wear their stupid fitted hats and listen to music that would never be allowed in a islamic society. Most of them convert because they think “Jesus was a white man who had slaves” well since i had converted 2 islam i found out that muhammed had black slaves and said that they were best used as slaves and were automatically satanic. Strange how most of the arabs I know look down upon blacks and i just happened 2 agree with them. For the ones with jobs and do good and play a decent role in society without acting like animals, i dont mind but for ones who sit on their ass all day and glorify tony montana (scarface) need 2 get the fuck out. For the ones who posted above saying theres no prejudice among arab muslims and black muslims is completely lying to themselves, yea maybe some dont feel that way and i never mentioned that ALL arab muslims feel that wa towards blacks but ive met quite a few dedicated arab muslims(young & old) who would be quick to tell you black is bad. Just read about the Darfur crisis going on rite now as we speak, janjawid is an arab militia backed by Osama Bin Laden to enslave the blacks and kill the useless. And what does Osama Bin Laden do? He follows the Quran. so figure it out. stop bein in denial and just face the fact that racism is just not black/white like you thought. To white people readin this post, realize muslims r not the enemy, just radical islam, there is a difference.. I advise 2 stop any hate towards innocent arabs, indians and anyone else who just wants a better life here plz, they r not the ones trashing up this country, realize who is really doin it and creatin music that may be a threat to our kids and family who glorify it. This is not directed 2 all blacks but 2 a good percentage who just complain about this n that, if u dont like it then jus leave. stop tearin this country apart..

Egyptian American Says:
January 25th, 2007 at 3:56 pm e
To Jaz or whatever your name is. You sound like the biggest idiot that I’ve ever heard of in my life. I’m arab! Many arabs who are muslim like myself have utmost respect for muslims of african american decent. My father has traveled all across the world including many muslim countries and he told me the best muslims he ever seen in his entire life was muslims of african american decent! Who represents Islam in the US??? African American Muslims! End of Story! I’m proud to be Muslim! I’m arab, but I’m Muslim first. I don’t know what kind of Muslim you are bringing White racism into islam and saying that muslim arabs taught you that African Americans practice false Islam. I don’t believe you! And if any ignorant Muslim Arab told you this, he or she is shaitan! Just like when my fellow Arab Sunni/Shia fight amongst each other! Or kill innocent people. They’re Shaitan! You’re also shaitan! You are preaching to Non Muslims to turn them against Muslims of African American decent. Don’t say that you’re Muslim. You’re are the biggest Kufr!!!! I don’t know what your intentions are with Islam, but you’re not a Muslim! And you want to speak of Osama, he’s not Muslim!!! He’s the biggest Kufr!!!! African American Muslims make me proud to be Muslim!!!
Al Hamdullah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great article!! I Wish I had thought to write it, but upon reading it, I am glad Dr. Mohammed wrote this article, for it seems that his life’s work has been this. God bless him!!

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/pan-arabism-inhuman-progenitor-islamic-terrorism.html

As all of you know, Abdelkareem’s freedom has been a pet project of mine since I heard of his “strange case” back in October or so of last year.

This article to follow is from Sara Ghorab, who has picked up the torch. I hope that many writers and bloggers and news agencies will pick up his story, just as they did for Alaa, whose cause was noble, but not as noble as Kareem’s.

Every friend of freedom, democracy, and AMERICA should forward this story (or any Kareem story) to as many people as she or he can.

Click the link below to read the whole thing.

“Bel Ro7, Bel Damm, nfdeeek ya Kareeeeem!!!!!!!”

Egyptian Blogger Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman IMPRISONED For Anti-Islamic Comments

By Sara Ghorab

Anyone who knows about the wonderful freedoms today’s Islamic Egypt affords her citizens will be surprised to hear that a harmless 22-year-old blogger who wrote an anti-Islamic essay was thrown into jail recently.

Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman, 21 at the time, actually saw late 2005’s Moharam Bey riots firsthand, and then wrote about them on his blog. He also labeled the religion of his birth, Islam, a “dirty religion” and spoke of its dangers. Shortly thereafter, he was taken in for questioning and detained for several days. Fast forward to the start of this year, and he was actually expelled from Islamic university Al Azhar. (Read this http://www.annaqed.com/english/under/expelled_from_al_azhar_for_exposing_the_truth.html article for background and a translation of his inflammatory blog posting.)

All was well for a while, but then the trouble began again. Abdelkareem was profiled on an Al Jazeera documentary about bloggers, making his face—which had previously appeared on his blog and on the first “Free Kareem” campaign—even more famous.

While many Moderate Muslims (some of them bloggers) defended him despite his defamation of their religion (and keep in mind that he himself was born Muslim), many of the people Abdelkareem daily came into contact with began to treat him differently. For example, one source tells me that several businesses took him aside and kindly asked him to stay away from their shops until the hubbub died down. Other shopkeepers were not so kind in their requests.

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Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman has had a tough time of it.

First, the 22-year-old law student attending Egypt’s world-famous Islamic university, Al Azhar, witnessed late 2005’s Alexandria Riots firsthand.

Then the young man was arrested for posting his decidedly un-Islamic thoughts on his BLOG.

While he claims he wasn’t treated horribly (as many are in Egyptian prisons), the fact that he was even detained for speaking his (nonviolent) opinion in a country, no, region of the world where people routinely kill Copts and other Christians because we aren’t “smart” enough to believe in “the better religion,” as Islam is often called, is very sad. Sadder still is the fact that these violent acts are rarely, if ever, prosecuted.

Back to the “Abdelkareem’s Raw Deal Timeline,” the beginning of 2006 had young Kareem expelled from Al Azhar University. Keep in mind that this University bans Copts (Christian Egyptians) from attending, even though they pay the taxes that keep Azhar’s doors open.

After the expulsion, the Alexandrian native was featured on an Al Jazeera documentary about bloggers and freedom. Surprisingly, several famous Moslem bloggers supported Kareem, despite the fact that he dragged their religion through the mud. It should be noted here that Abdelkareem was born a Moslem.

Things had seemed to settle down for a while, until this week, when it turns out that Kareem is being interrogated again (in the Egyptian “neyabah al 3amah”) for his writings and sentiments.

Thankfully, lawyers from a big Human Rights Organization in the Middle East will be with him.

Unfortunately, however, all the lawyers in the world won’t be able to keep Kareem out of prison this time if the powers that be realize how many people in the Western World care about his fate.

Or perhaps it is the ever-growing assembly of eyes that are peering in on the pitiful practices in Egypt that have the power to save young Kareem.

Spread the word, keep him in your prayers, and don’t forget to say a prayer for the safety and freedom of all Egyptians.. and all human beings everywhere.
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For more information on Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman, read
“Egyptian Blogger Arrested, Expelled from Al Azhar for Exposing the Truth

(alternate links:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/AhmedSalib60326.htm
http://www.annaqed.com/english/under/expelled_from_al_azhar_for_exposing_the_truth.html)

and

“Anti-Moslems?”

By J. Ahmed Salib, M.D.
www.ahmedsalib.com

I am sorry, I just can’t help myself. (Salib’s comments in BOLD and Austin’s indented.)

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish.

Pity you don’t take your own advice, Mikey!

Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act.

Well, then, this must be a different Islam than the one that Mohammed followed, because he was the first terrorist.

Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.

I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)

Don’t believe me?

Nope. Noone with a thinking brain would believe that tripe, Austin.

No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an.

I don’t NEED a translation.

Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!

A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God.

A religion of P–SY (sorry for the crudeness but hey, if the shoe fits) it is indeed with its sole purpose being

1- Sex, Sex, and more Sex
2- Killing
3- Making up fake stories to legitimize 1 & 2
4- Lies
5- Insanity

Austin, you obviously don’t know about the approved torture methods and killing methods of the real Moslems (which you aren’t, by the way). Have you ever watched a man have hooks put into him and then each hook pulled a different direction until the man is in segments? (I’m talking MEAT hooks, Austin.)

Have you ever seen a person (like poor Atwar Bahgat killed in the manner I’m going to share with you in a moment?

To be fair, some suspect this video of being a hoax that claimed the life of a Nepalese man instead of Bahgat, but is that any comfort? The animals still did horrible things to that victim. Moving on, though.

Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit?

Jesus Christ, who never killed one man in His life, and who was killed Himself… to save you, Michael.

As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom!

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You’re proving that Islam is the way because of what the American army has done 1400 YEARS AFTER ISLAM BEGAN??

Ok, who ever said that Bush and Christianity were interchangeable terms? I disagree with the “war” MORE THAN YOU DO, friend. Those are MY Arabic-speaking brothers there, and even if they pray to a different diety (and are mistaken beyond belief), I would never endorse the killing of anyone. It’s YOUR people who do that, Mikey. When they’re oppressed, I mean. End of story, period.

Shall we talk of Palestine next?

Yes, let’s!

Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority.

Your beef seems to be with the U.S.
Don’t you know that the nation America has a savior complex? The rulers think they can fix anything. And they usually try to ‘fix’ things that have lots of oil. Why doesn’t Bush try “helping” the people in Darfur or Ethiopia or others who are starving to death? I agree with you, American politics have got out of hand (I’m still a Republican, though, because of the Moral issues).

In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians.

Oh really? An Atrosity, you say? Well, actually, the Crusades may not have been the most shining of moments, but thank God in heaven for them, or else a bigger percentage of the world would be Muslim!

If you don’t, then you live in the Land of the Double Standard.
If you do, then you’re in the wrong religion, because baby, that’s what it’s all about.
I beg you to do some more research before promoting a religion that’s more terrifying than every horror movie ever put out there.

Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition?

Bring it.

Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain?

Hmm. I have an MD, and you converted INTO Islam. Let’s just leave it at that.

And for the record, your “argument” not only proves that the cement has migrated from your brain to your heart, but that you’re an honorary Arab, double standards and all.

Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts.

Reverts??? You mean people who used to be Moslem and then reverted to it?? I’m starting to doubt that English is your first language, Mike.

And by the way, you’re right for once–the true Islam is only carried out by a relative handful of people; Osama bin Laden and others like him. If you haven’t killed anyone in the name of “allah,” then you’re a poor excuse for a Moslem (and not just because your spelling and logical faculties.. “need work.”)

Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

I mean, come off it, Michael. If you think “allah” condones these things, then you’re sadly mistaken. And if you can really look at your reflection in the mirror, or sleep peacefully at night after having defended these things, then you really and truly, as we say in Arabic, “ma3ndaksh damm.”

I am sorry, I just can’t help myself. (Salib’s comments in BOLD and Austin’s indented.)

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish.

Pity you don’t take your own advice, Mikey!

Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act.

Well, then, this must be a different Islam than the one that Mohammed followed, because he was the first terrorist.

Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.

I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)

Don’t believe me?

Nope. Noone with a thinking brain would believe that tripe, Austin.

No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an.

I don’t NEED a translation.

Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!

A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God.

A religion of P–SY (sorry for the crudeness but hey, if the shoe fits) it is indeed with its sole purpose being

1- Sex, Sex, and more Sex
2- Killing
3- Making up fake stories to legitimize 1 & 2
4- Lies
5- Insanity

Austin, you obviously don’t know about the approved torture methods and killing methods of the real Moslems (which you aren’t, by the way). Have you ever watched a man have hooks put into him and then each hook pulled a different direction until the man is in segments? (I’m talking MEAT hooks, Austin.)

Have you ever seen a person (like poor Atwar Bahgat killed in the manner I’m going to share with you in a moment?

To be fair, some suspect this video of being a hoax that claimed the life of a Nepalese man instead of Bahgat, but is that any comfort? The animals still did horrible things to that victim. Moving on, though.

Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit?

Jesus Christ, who never killed one man in His life, and who was killed Himself… to save you, Michael.

As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom!

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You’re proving that Islam is the way because of what the American army has done 1400 YEARS AFTER ISLAM BEGAN??

Ok, who ever said that Bush and Christianity were interchangeable terms? I disagree with the “war” MORE THAN YOU DO, friend. Those are MY Arabic-speaking brothers there, and even if they pray to a different diety (and are mistaken beyond belief), I would never endorse the killing of anyone. It’s YOUR people who do that, Mikey. When they’re oppressed, I mean. End of story, period.

Shall we talk of Palestine next?

Yes, let’s!

Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority.

Your beef seems to be with the U.S.
Don’t you know that the nation America has a savior complex? The rulers think they can fix anything. And they usually try to ‘fix’ things that have lots of oil. Why doesn’t Bush try “helping” the people in Darfur or Ethiopia or others who are starving to death? I agree with you, American politics have got out of hand (I’m still a Republican, though, because of the Moral issues).

In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians.

Oh really? An Atrosity, you say? Well, actually, the Crusades may not have been the most shining of moments, but thank God in heaven for them, or else a bigger percentage of the world would be Muslim!

If you don’t, then you live in the Land of the Double Standard.
If you do, then you’re in the wrong religion, because baby, that’s what it’s all about.
I beg you to do some more research before promoting a religion that’s more terrifying than every horror movie ever put out there.

Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition?

Bring it.

Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain?

Hmm. I have an MD, and you converted INTO Islam. Let’s just leave it at that.

And for the record, your “argument” not only proves that the cement has migrated from your brain to your heart, but that you’re an honorary Arab, double standards and all.

Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts.

Reverts??? You mean people who used to be Moslem and then reverted to it?? I’m starting to doubt that English is your first language, Mike.

And by the way, you’re right for once–the true Islam is only carried out by a relative handful of people; Osama bin Laden and others like him. If you haven’t killed anyone in the name of “allah,” then you’re a poor excuse for a Moslem (and not just because your spelling and logical faculties.. “need work.”)

Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

I mean, come off it, Michael. If you think “allah” condones these things, then you’re sadly mistaken. And if you can really look at your reflection in the mirror, or sleep peacefully at night after having defended these things, then you really and truly, as we say in Arabic, “ma3ndaksh damm.”

Just in case you are not a comment-checker, I wanted to share this recent comment of Michael Austin, (to THIS article of his) and my reply. I have highlighted Mr Austin’s more interesting points.

Happy Sunday.

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish. Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act. Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story. Don’t believe me? No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an. A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God. Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit? As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom! Shall we talk of Palestine next? Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority. In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians. Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition? Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain? Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts. Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

This was my original reply to Mr Austin:

Dear Mr. Austin, the problem lies in something you said in the first sentence– “legitimately translated.”

There isn’t one. Why? Because some versions seek to “sanitize” the religion (but no amount of Clorox can completely wash all of the blood from their hands), although others are translated properly but western converts such as yourself blindly fight against them, insisting “Yes, Islam is TOO, good!” (In the singsongy voice of a playground, not saying “Islam is too good”. Although you probably believe that.

I am very sorry for you, Michael. I’m sorry that you choose to believe 2 sets of lies–the set that says “Muslims are good” (propagated by Muslims) and the set that Muslims themselves believe (”Allah is good, true, real, and not an insane figment of a more insane man.”)

I do not know George el MAsry, but he obviously has some good and valid ideas.

I do know that I have read the Kor’an in 2 languages (and several translations) and things don’t add up. Either in the content or in the translations (at times).

You probably get your idea of Islam from that ridiculous “book” “Qur’an and Women,” by Amina Wadud, a Black American Moslem who also has the wrong idea.

I challenge any Arabic-speaking scholar of Islam to read that book and agree with the tenets therein.

May God bring you back to His truth, Michael–remember: Just because you had a bad experience at a protestant church does not mean that Islam is the solution!

I am praying for you.

In the love of the Jesus the Savior and the only source of true love,

Salib

This was before I’d read it line by line, though, and I invite you to read my line-by-line response in the entry to come.

United Copts of Great Britain

URL: www.unitedcopts.org

Press Release

For immediate release

11th October 2006

The United Copts of Great Britain condemns the persecution and discrimination practiced by Muslim fundamentalist gangs which is being conducted under the nose of the Egyptian police with either the Egyptian police tacit approval or complacency.

The female child Lawrence Wagih Emil 15 years old from Mahala El-Kobra, Egypt was kidnapped on 4/10/06 and taken to Helwan district over 100 miles south of Mahala El-Kobra by Muslim fundamentalists gang who attacked her, kept her under false imprisonment for over 12 hours.

Lawrence managed later on to escape from her captors , she was kept in a safe place by a Muslim family, the police was informed of the address of her kidnappers but did nothing to apprehend and charge them.

Lawrence was later on handed over to her family. United Copts GB learnt from reliable sources that the police will not persecute the kidnappers, this is not the first time the police in Egypt turn a blind eye to the persecution of Christians.

In the eighties and nineties hundreds of innocent Christians were murdered in cold blood, please see a short list of the murderous attacks on Copts on the United Copts web site http://www.unitedcopts.org/content/view/18/33/ non of the murders were charged and convicted.

The stark example was Al-Kosheh massacre on 2nd Jan 2000 when 21 innocent Christians were killed in their homes or in the fields. Again not a single murderer was persecuted by the Egyptian government.

For years Copts complained of variable degrees of Egyptian government acceding to the Muslim Fundamentalists agenda. This unfortunate policy resulted in Egypt being one of the major exporters of terrorism in the whole world due to fundamentalist abuse of Media and education system, where radicalisation of ordinary Egyptians took place on daily basis for over 30 years.

Egypt led the way towards spreading Islamic fundamentalism. World wide leaders and figureheads Muslim fundamentalists such as Mohammad Atta who masterminded 9/11 suicide hijacking or Ayman Al-Zawahri Ben Laden lieutenant coming from a country who is considered to be a “Western ally” and the second highest recipient of USA foreign aid after Israel, raises may questions and many eye brows too.

While the murder of Christians has slowed down in the past years, the last events were on 14/4/06 when churches were attacked in the city of Alexandria by a person carrying two swords, uttering verses from the Quran and attacking Christian worshippers killing one person Noshi Atta Guirguis 78y and injuring many others. The assailant Mahmoud Salah-Eddin Abdel-Raziq 28y was later diagnosed as mentally disturbed.

On 26/6/06 in Zaqaziq Fouad Fawzi Tawfik was murdered in cold blood in his shop at the hands of a Muslim fundamentalist who stabbed him several times, uttered some Islamic religious verses and left the shop.

The United Copts of Great Britain condemn the persecution of Copts in Egypt and ask the Egyptian government to provide equal protection to the Copts.

The United Copts of Great Britain ask the Egyptian government to seriously address this serious issue and also ask Human Rights organisations, governments and all Freedom Loving people to apply pressure on the Egyptian government to stop turning a blind eye to the persecution of religious minorities and to and stop the discrimination/ persecution of Copts in their motherland, and to treat all citizens equally.

http://www.unitedcopts.org/content/view/179/83/

2 love-filled posts from a Moslem commenting on www.mychristianblood.org

if you do not convert to Islam you will burn in fire I ask all of you to accept the truth of Islam. if you do not you will burn and we will kill you even if it means our death. we have to die as much as you have to live. if we die a martyr we inherit paradise what do you inherit nothing! Islam is the future of the West all other religions must convert or be killed by our swords!

Posted by: islam is the future | 09/26/2006

you are wrong if you think that in islam is evil for killing unbelievers. muslims have every right to kill so called “innocent” americans and others. If you dont believe in Islam you do not have a right to live. so believe with us or we will kill you whenever and however we can.
islam is the future

you stupid christians and jews and others we will kill you because you refuse to turn your kaafir states into islamic ones holding onto the truth of Allah!!

I will dance on your blood and give your heads to my friends and we will use them as footballs.

Islam is the future of Britain and the world

Posted by: islam is the future | 09/26/2006

Hi, I was born in a Pakistani family in the UK. I was a major fundamentalist Muslim. I had absolute faith in Islam and I loved it very much. However after reading the Koran a few times I started to wonder about some of the verses. There were things in the Koran that were making me nervous, also the many stories about Mohammed were also cause for concern. The conquest and subjugation of the Jews was rather disturbing, so to was the rape of many women. I didn’t want to believe this and i started to say to myself that these stories are lies. However the thought of my faith was eating my mind, slowly, slowly i was being torn apart by this dilemma. I finally wrote down some of the problems I had with the Koran and the story of Mohammed. I went to mosque and asked the mulavi sahib about these issues i had with Islam. He tried his best to explain but its like I knew that he wasn’t going to be able to justify some of the atrocities committed by Mohammed. However the part where he got stuck was the Aisha question. How can a man of more than 50 years old have sexual feelings for a girl of only 6! After he gave me a dissatisfactory answer I just went quiet and walked away. I was out the door and I looked back, He looked at me and he put his head down… I think he knew I wasn’t going to come back. Since then I have been rather heart broken as I have lost my faith. Islam is a falsehood, a pure hoax. I felt that I might as well believe in Santa clause or the boogie man! I wish I could believe again, but as a normal and respectable human being I cant believe in a man who is a pedophile! Simple as that. I can’t comprehend the fact that a man of that age can fantasize about a 6 year old, and then have sex with her while she was still playing with her dolls! And why is it that a woman is lower than a man? is my mother lower than me? why is it that a Muslim can have 4 wives? can a woman not have 4 husbands then? and why did Mohammed have more than 4 wives? doesn’t he believe in practice what you preach! Also how can I believe a man with such low moral character? how can I believe in a man who does things which I myself find abhorrent and disgusting, a man like him today instead of being in a mosque would actually be in prison with a 7 year jail sentence for rape, and child molestation/sexual abuse. For the cultural reasons given for this act (by the so called scholars) of Mohammed’s marriage with a 6 year old are irrelevant! No SANE man in any time or place would have sexual fallings for a baby! This is reason enough for denouncing Islam. For this man is not from God. And Islam is just the ramblings of some delusional Arab mad man. All this religion has done is cause pain and misery for the world. Especially India where the mass murder of Hindus was unforgivable. No country suffered more than Hindu India. As for other religions at least the so called enemies of Islam such as Sikhism, Hinduism and Buddhism etc., don’t have their religious leaders doing such disgusting things or being complete hypocrites! I’m still a right wing, conservative but I’m not a sucker and I’m not gonna let this nut case ideology ruin my life anymore. Even Jesus wasn’t anything like this fiend Mohammed! I’m just glad I got out while I could, and I just hope that all the other Muslims finally get their facts right and come to their senses. They should DUMP this evil satanic cult immediately, and do with the Koran as is done with all other piles of useless TRASH! - commit it to the FLAMES! Any way, thank you for your time,

Ahmed K.

P.S. Apology to all those Sikhs and others i fought with and got many a bloody nose for the defense of this pathetic cult, forgive me, thank you.

www.mychristianblood.org

(Lifted from mychristianblood.org)

Sorry for bad English but I needed to write to you. I am not very good at it. I am a Muslim. I read your articles and changed my mind about Islam. I was among those who tried to advocate Islam. I thought Osama bin Laden was not a Muslim and I was. Now I see I was not a Muslim and Osama Bin Laden was.

Fortunately I am living in Sweden and I can become an apostate. It is a free country. I was born in Saudi Arabia and if I left Islam in that country I would be killed.

I must change my whole life because I left Islam. It will be hard but I will try to do it because I don’t want to be a Muslim. I no longer visit mosque. I no longer pray. I stopped doing these things. I shaved my face.

I don’t promise to become a Western man in a day but I already began changing.

My family is living in Saudi Arabia . I will not tell them about my decision because they are very intolerant.

I hope all Muslims will leave Islam. And it will happen. Islam is inhumane. You can’t be a human and a Muslim at the same time. Most Muslims will choose to be humans. It is for sure.

I was a Muslim but I didn’t want to kill non-Muslims. I didn’t think about such verses in the Quran. I thought it was to be practiced only in the 7th century.

I am a father. I have a one-year-old daughter. Her mother died when she was having her. My daughter will not be a Muslim woman. She will be a western woman. She will receive education and have a career. I will do everything I can to do it.

It is really funny that I read the Quran million times but I didn’t see things that you wrote in your articles. You made me stop being blind.

Thanks for your site. You made me a better human being. No, you made me a human being. Before it I was a Muslim.

My sister who is also in Sweden left Islam long time ago but I didn’t know. When I told her I had left Islam she was very happy. We are now friends. My family (and me before I left Islam) didn’t like her because she did everything to leave Saudi Arabia and go to free countries. She hated Islam from her childhood. It is in her nature. She always wanted to peruse a career. She is doing it now. She says Islam is unbearable for women (especially in Saudi Arabia ).

I read all articles on your site. It took me some months. I made my own investigation. I talked to my Imam. He didn’t answer my questions.

P.S. I hope things will improve in your mother country. Iranians are the most intelligent and educated among other Muslims.

Thank you very much! I know my English is awful but I live in Sweden and Swedish was more important to me!

Posted by: Sahid

If it wasn’t so sad, I would be amused at the cleverness of it all. As it is, however, I am heartsick. Hope the video shows up, but if not, click the link below. Blessings, Salib.

Or just click HERE.

Kidnapped Christian Girls.

Everyone keeps getting their own domains, I might have to do the same! (The one time “jumping into the bandwagon” is ok.. )

A misguided soul who thinks he knows more than the “prophet” (peace be upon him, because he REALLY needs it, and so does the modern world, whose awful state is the result of his egocentric and perverted “revelations” from “Allah,” who would probably strangle his most “holy” prophet if he had a chance) put the following comment in my “Mohammed vs Michael Jackson” posting (see my responses in the square brackets):

Rush Says:
September 13th, 2006 at 10:08 pm e
unfortunatly u dont seem from ur articles to be a person that read anything about islam..why dont u TRY and read prophit mohammeds history a LIL bit before u attack a holly prophit as if u have personal issues with him?

[That's rich! *I* didn't read about Islam?? If you DO NOT have personal issues with "the prophet," then it is YOU who didn't read about Islam, my friend!]

u comparinga holly prophit to MJ?? WHATS NEXT…TUPAC SHAKUR VS JESUS CHRIST COMPARISONS??

[No, Jesus actually practiced what He preached, whereas MOHAMMED PREACHED WHAT HE PRACTICED. Yes, he changed "allah's" decrees to suit what was happening to him (mohammed) at the moment. If, in fact, 'allah' DID make those decrees, then 1- Islam is actually and truly about Mohammed more than 'allah,' and 2- THIS ALLAH MUST BE A DOLT to base a faith around a perverse man that I wouldn't even let to be the doorman in my house, much less the high priest of an entire, world-dessicating religion.]

for real man..i wont even go low to ur level…

[You couldn't hope to reach my level, hon..]

cuz fortunatly for u…unlike most muslims now..i studied my religion RIGHT…and we respect all prophits and religions wether u like it or not…and those idiots who claim to be muslims that act different and show hate and violence towards Christians even if only verbally WILL be punished in life and after death…because in reality, muslims have to protect all christian civilians living within an islamic nation and must treat them equal to muslims and they must be given the freedom to practise their religion in peace..

[By your words, you seem to be a caring and friendly and devout individual.. why would you dedicate your life and your soul to a false religion that will only end up with you in hell? Please, brother, I BEG you to read the Koran once, all in one sitting. If you don't want to waste the time, I don't blame you, but scroll down to read the verses that prove you wrong in your claim that Islam=peace.]

so those muslims u keep referring to are not true muslims..

[All the sheikhs aren't true Muslims? Fascinating. Why don't you email someone from Al Azhar and tell him that, I'm sure he'll love it.]

just like hateful christians like you who attack other peoples religion are NOT real christians either…i dont think christianity pushes u to disrespect other peoples free will and religious believes…

[Ya Rush ya Habib el Koll, I am not hateful. I am speaking in a sad and resigned manner. My heart is breaking that you believe in a false religion.]

i know and respect UR religion more than you….so stop wasting all our time with this stupid ignorant BS…and people who are wasting time arguing with this air head who has no time t even back up his stupid stories with any evidence…let him go…

[1- here is evidence below (scroll down) and 2- YOU just wasted your time too in replying to me, so why don't you practice what you preach? Or are you like your prophet in that, too..?]

he will lose his motive with lack of attention
BE GONE
salam

[I mean this 100%, but salaam to you too. Please scroll down, though..]

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Just in case the switching above was confusing, here is an alternate reply from me:

Thanks, Rush, here’s hoping you won’t “rush” to judgment and that you will read what I have to say. First of all, I happen to know the Hadith and the “holy” Koran better than most Moslems could claim to.

If YOU knew it as well as I did, then you could not claim that Islam is a religion of peace unless you were either Mentally Retarded, or if you skipped the following verses (read ‘em and weep.. Actually, we’re the ones who weep when we see that you really and truly believe this TRIPE called Islam!)

FROM your own scriptures (NOT the Hadith, which some don’t accept as the word of Allah):

Verses from the Koran:

VIII/12: When thy Lord inspired the angels (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

IX/5: Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor- due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

IX/73: Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil’s heads) - the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

IX/123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

IV/144: O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

IX/29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

VIII/65: “O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.”

And in terms of Islam’s Treatment of Women:

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will…

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness …confine them until death claims them.

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

[To men only, apparently..]

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies…

[Wow, even-handed there!]

Sorry, I wanted to pull out every filthy ‘verse’ in the Koran, but 1- I don’t have all year, and 2- I just had an excellent dinner, which is making my stomach immensely pleased, and I would rather not lose it..

Some English information on the sad case. Young Catholic Girl taken just 10 days before her wedding.

This is an article:
Kidnapped! SOS for MONA YACOUB

This is a short video about the girl:
What Every Girl Dreams Of..

Article questioning validity of pinning all disappearances on The Moslems (Daily Star Egypt)

Article pondering whether the wife of a Coptic Clergy was kidnapped.. or ran away from home with a Moslem man!

Please keep the Yakoob family in your prayers, and may young Mona return safely to her relatives.