I am sorry, I just can’t help myself. (Salib’s comments in BOLD and Austin’s indented.)

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish.

Pity you don’t take your own advice, Mikey!

Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act.

Well, then, this must be a different Islam than the one that Mohammed followed, because he was the first terrorist.

Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.

I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)

Don’t believe me?

Nope. Noone with a thinking brain would believe that tripe, Austin.

No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an.

I don’t NEED a translation.

Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!

A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God.

A religion of P–SY (sorry for the crudeness but hey, if the shoe fits) it is indeed with its sole purpose being

1- Sex, Sex, and more Sex
2- Killing
3- Making up fake stories to legitimize 1 & 2
4- Lies
5- Insanity

Austin, you obviously don’t know about the approved torture methods and killing methods of the real Moslems (which you aren’t, by the way). Have you ever watched a man have hooks put into him and then each hook pulled a different direction until the man is in segments? (I’m talking MEAT hooks, Austin.)

Have you ever seen a person (like poor Atwar Bahgat killed in the manner I’m going to share with you in a moment?

By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage.

It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear. …

A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.

Her cries “Ah, ah, ah” can be heard above the “Allahu Akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.

Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat. Her executioner suddenly stands up, his job only half done. A second man in a dark T-shirt and camouflage trousers places his right khaki boot on her abdomen and pushes down hard eight times, forcing a rush of blood from her wounds as she moves her head from right to left.

Only now does the executioner return to finish the task. He hacks off her head and drops it to the ground, then picks it up again and perches it on her bare chest so that it faces the film-maker in a grotesque parody of one of her pieces to camera.
By Halal Jabar

To be fair, some suspect this video of being a hoax that claimed the life of a Nepalese man instead of Bahgat, but is that any comfort? The animals still did horrible things to that victim. Moving on, though.

Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit?


Jesus Christ, who never killed one man in His life, and who was killed Himself… to save you, Michael.

As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom!

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You’re proving that Islam is the way because of what the American army has done 1400 YEARS AFTER ISLAM BEGAN??

Ok, who ever said that Bush and Christianity were interchangeable terms? I disagree with the “war” MORE THAN YOU DO, friend. Those are MY Arabic-speaking brothers there, and even if they pray to a different diety (and are mistaken beyond belief), I would never endorse the killing of anyone. It’s YOUR people who do that, Mikey. When they’re oppressed, I mean. End of story, period.

Shall we talk of Palestine next?

Yes, let’s!

Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority.

Your beef seems to be with the U.S.
Don’t you know that the nation America has a savior complex? The rulers think they can fix anything. And they usually try to ‘fix’ things that have lots of oil. Why doesn’t Bush try “helping” the people in Darfur or Ethiopia or others who are starving to death? I agree with you, American politics have got out of hand (I’m still a Republican, though, because of the Moral issues).

In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians.

Oh really? An Atrosity, you say? Well, actually, the Crusades may not have been the most shining of moments, but thank God in heaven for them, or else a bigger percentage of the world would be Muslim!

Do you consider the Arab invasion of Egypt, where my ancestors were threatened with having their tongues ripped out if they didn’t learn the Moslem language an atrocity? Do you consider the killing (by sword) of people who refused to convert an “atrocity”?

If you don’t, then you live in the Land of the Double Standard.
If you do, then you’re in the wrong religion, because baby, that’s what it’s all about.
I beg you to do some more research before promoting a religion that’s more terrifying than every horror movie ever put out there.

Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition?

Bring it.

Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain?

Hmm. I have an MD, and you converted INTO Islam. Let’s just leave it at that.

And for the record, your “argument” not only proves that the cement has migrated from your brain to your heart, but that you’re an honorary Arab, double standards and all.

Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts.

Reverts??? You mean people who used to be Moslem and then reverted to it?? I’m starting to doubt that English is your first language, Mike.

And by the way, you’re right for once–the true Islam is only carried out by a relative handful of people; Osama bin Laden and others like him. If you haven’t killed anyone in the name of “allah,” then you’re a poor excuse for a Moslem (and not just because your spelling and logical faculties.. “need work.”)

Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

Let’s see… Big Mo steals verses from Christian and Jewish scriptures. He promises a few idiots (whom no one would share a cab with, much less sleep with) around him that they can have all the food and sex and money that they want (before and after death), and they take him up on it. They go around raping and robbing and forcing conversions (sex and food and money on a platter, you might say) like a bunch of hairy pirates.
They are addicted to their new game, and devote their lives to spreading this “religion.”

I could go on, but I have to get to church soon. But I challenge YOU to look at how many Christians have been killed FOR THEIR FAITH. Forget American oil missions and the like. No one said they’re right.

Compare Jesus and Mohammed side by side. One killed no one, the other bathed in blood.
One never married and the other was such a sex maniac that he re-wrote his “scriptures” every time Junior reared his warped head. (If you don’t mind that he snatched his son’s wife, an old lady, and a 9 year old in the space of 10 years, then you’re a pedophilic sociopath and there’s no reasoning with you so I should just stop right now.)
One said “turn the other cheek” and the other said “slay the unbelievers where you find them.”
One said “wives submit to your husband as he submits to God” and the other said “allah has put men in charge of women because men excel women” and “if you get into a fight with the Mrs. then shun her, yell at her, or beat her.”

I mean, come off it, Michael. If you think “allah” condones these things, then you’re sadly mistaken. And if you can really look at your reflection in the mirror, or sleep peacefully at night after having defended these things, then you really and truly, as we say in Arabic, “ma3ndaksh damm.”

I am sorry, I just can’t help myself. (Salib’s comments in BOLD and Austin’s indented.)

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish.

Pity you don’t take your own advice, Mikey!

Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act.

Well, then, this must be a different Islam than the one that Mohammed followed, because he was the first terrorist.

Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story.

I thought that the Qur’an itself banns the Moslem from committing a terrorist act? Also, you may be interested to know that Arab men always think they’re oppressed. They are the original Mama’s boys who live by double standard and are little better than spoiled brats who want their own way. (Unfortunately, Copts have picked this up in the past several hundred years.)

Don’t believe me?

Nope. Noone with a thinking brain would believe that tripe, Austin.

No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an.

I don’t NEED a translation.

Do me a fave, Austin. Go learn Arabic and read the Kor’an THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ and then come back and talk to me. Hurry up, I’m timing you. 1, 2, 3.. 4..!

A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God.

A religion of P–SY (sorry for the crudeness but hey, if the shoe fits) it is indeed with its sole purpose being

1- Sex, Sex, and more Sex
2- Killing
3- Making up fake stories to legitimize 1 & 2
4- Lies
5- Insanity

Austin, you obviously don’t know about the approved torture methods and killing methods of the real Moslems (which you aren’t, by the way). Have you ever watched a man have hooks put into him and then each hook pulled a different direction until the man is in segments? (I’m talking MEAT hooks, Austin.)

Have you ever seen a person (like poor Atwar Bahgat killed in the manner I’m going to share with you in a moment?

By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage.

It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear. …

A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.

Her cries “Ah, ah, ah” can be heard above the “Allahu Akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.

Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat. Her executioner suddenly stands up, his job only half done. A second man in a dark T-shirt and camouflage trousers places his right khaki boot on her abdomen and pushes down hard eight times, forcing a rush of blood from her wounds as she moves her head from right to left.

Only now does the executioner return to finish the task. He hacks off her head and drops it to the ground, then picks it up again and perches it on her bare chest so that it faces the film-maker in a grotesque parody of one of her pieces to camera.
By Halal Jabar

To be fair, some suspect this video of being a hoax that claimed the life of a Nepalese man instead of Bahgat, but is that any comfort? The animals still did horrible things to that victim. Moving on, though.

Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit?


Jesus Christ, who never killed one man in His life, and who was killed Himself… to save you, Michael.

As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom!

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You’re proving that Islam is the way because of what the American army has done 1400 YEARS AFTER ISLAM BEGAN??

Ok, who ever said that Bush and Christianity were interchangeable terms? I disagree with the “war” MORE THAN YOU DO, friend. Those are MY Arabic-speaking brothers there, and even if they pray to a different diety (and are mistaken beyond belief), I would never endorse the killing of anyone. It’s YOUR people who do that, Mikey. When they’re oppressed, I mean. End of story, period.

Shall we talk of Palestine next?

Yes, let’s!

Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority.

Your beef seems to be with the U.S.
Don’t you know that the nation America has a savior complex? The rulers think they can fix anything. And they usually try to ‘fix’ things that have lots of oil. Why doesn’t Bush try “helping” the people in Darfur or Ethiopia or others who are starving to death? I agree with you, American politics have got out of hand (I’m still a Republican, though, because of the Moral issues).

In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians.

Oh really? An Atrosity, you say? Well, actually, the Crusades may not have been the most shining of moments, but thank God in heaven for them, or else a bigger percentage of the world would be Muslim!

Do you consider the Arab invasion of Egypt, where my ancestors were threatened with having their tongues ripped out if they didn’t learn the Moslem language an atrocity? Do you consider the killing (by sword) of people who refused to convert an “atrocity”?

If you don’t, then you live in the Land of the Double Standard.
If you do, then you’re in the wrong religion, because baby, that’s what it’s all about.
I beg you to do some more research before promoting a religion that’s more terrifying than every horror movie ever put out there.

Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition?

Bring it.

Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain?

Hmm. I have an MD, and you converted INTO Islam. Let’s just leave it at that.

And for the record, your “argument” not only proves that the cement has migrated from your brain to your heart, but that you’re an honorary Arab, double standards and all.

Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts.

Reverts??? You mean people who used to be Moslem and then reverted to it?? I’m starting to doubt that English is your first language, Mike.

And by the way, you’re right for once–the true Islam is only carried out by a relative handful of people; Osama bin Laden and others like him. If you haven’t killed anyone in the name of “allah,” then you’re a poor excuse for a Moslem (and not just because your spelling and logical faculties.. “need work.”)

Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

Let’s see… Big Mo steals verses from Christian and Jewish scriptures. He promises a few idiots (whom no one would share a cab with, much less sleep with) around him that they can have all the food and sex and money that they want (before and after death), and they take him up on it. They go around raping and robbing and forcing conversions (sex and food and money on a platter, you might say) like a bunch of hairy pirates.
They are addicted to their new game, and devote their lives to spreading this “religion.”

I could go on, but I have to get to church soon. But I challenge YOU to look at how many Christians have been killed FOR THEIR FAITH. Forget American oil missions and the like. No one said they’re right.

Compare Jesus and Mohammed side by side. One killed no one, the other bathed in blood.
One never married and the other was such a sex maniac that he re-wrote his “scriptures” every time Junior reared his warped head. (If you don’t mind that he snatched his son’s wife, an old lady, and a 9 year old in the space of 10 years, then you’re a pedophilic sociopath and there’s no reasoning with you so I should just stop right now.)
One said “turn the other cheek” and the other said “slay the unbelievers where you find them.”
One said “wives submit to your husband as he submits to God” and the other said “allah has put men in charge of women because men excel women” and “if you get into a fight with the Mrs. then shun her, yell at her, or beat her.”

I mean, come off it, Michael. If you think “allah” condones these things, then you’re sadly mistaken. And if you can really look at your reflection in the mirror, or sleep peacefully at night after having defended these things, then you really and truly, as we say in Arabic, “ma3ndaksh damm.”

Just in case you are not a comment-checker, I wanted to share this recent comment of Michael Austin, (to THIS article of his) and my reply. I have highlighted Mr Austin’s more interesting points.

Happy Sunday.

With regards to Mr. El Masri’s comments, this man should educate himself and not make comments out of ignorance because it only makes him look foolish. Anyone who knows anything about Islam, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike knows that the Qur’an itself banns the Muslim from committing any terrorist act. Muslims are permitted to fight only in the face of oppression and must stop fighting when that oppression stops, period end of story. Don’t believe me? No problem you may find this information very easily in any legitimately translated Qur’an. A religion of peace it is indeed with its sole purpose being the submission to God. Tell us Mr. El Masri, to whom do you submit? As far as terrorist actions are concerned, what do you call entering a country you have no right to enter against the will of the United Nations and killing 600,000 civilians? I call it Operation Iraqi Freedom! Shall we talk of Palestine next? Or any of the multitudes of crimes committed by the U.S. against areas where Muslims are the majority. In honesty we could start with the crusades which by the way is unilaterally accepted as an atrosity by the west toward Islam by Western historians. Why should we stop there when we can talk of the spanish inquisition? Has my point been made or do you have cement in your brain? Before you stereotype all Muslims or even a majority of them as terrorist or even of a non-peaceful nature you should educate yourself with regards to the truth of Islam which is sadly practices by only a handful of people calling themselves Muslim today and of those most are American reverts. Also you may want to take a strong look at the actions of non Muslims historically and presently and compare them with the actions of Muslims, I assure you, you will find that Muslims are indeed peaceful. Thank you and may you find truth in your journey.

This was my original reply to Mr Austin:

Dear Mr. Austin, the problem lies in something you said in the first sentence– “legitimately translated.”

There isn’t one. Why? Because some versions seek to “sanitize” the religion (but no amount of Clorox can completely wash all of the blood from their hands), although others are translated properly but western converts such as yourself blindly fight against them, insisting “Yes, Islam is TOO, good!” (In the singsongy voice of a playground, not saying “Islam is too good”. Although you probably believe that.

I am very sorry for you, Michael. I’m sorry that you choose to believe 2 sets of lies–the set that says “Muslims are good” (propagated by Muslims) and the set that Muslims themselves believe (”Allah is good, true, real, and not an insane figment of a more insane man.”)

I do not know George el MAsry, but he obviously has some good and valid ideas.

I do know that I have read the Kor’an in 2 languages (and several translations) and things don’t add up. Either in the content or in the translations (at times).

You probably get your idea of Islam from that ridiculous “book” “Qur’an and Women,” by Amina Wadud, a Black American Moslem who also has the wrong idea.

I challenge any Arabic-speaking scholar of Islam to read that book and agree with the tenets therein.

May God bring you back to His truth, Michael–remember: Just because you had a bad experience at a protestant church does not mean that Islam is the solution!

I am praying for you.

In the love of the Jesus the Savior and the only source of true love,

Salib

This was before I’d read it line by line, though, and I invite you to read my line-by-line response in the entry to come.

(By William Hanna)

Dear ALL:

The latest fashion in our Coptic Church pulpit is really something that will make Sts. Athanassious, Kyrillos, and Descores bones turn in their graves when they see their descendants violating the rules of Orthodox teaching: What you see now is bishops standing and quoting the Koran (Latest, bishop of Helwan on Egyptian Satellite, Sunday 17 Sep 2006).

The corollary is very obvious, little priests imitating asyadhum and quoting also. And then one large little priest from Masr Al-quadima appearing on ART to declare to the world that he studied the Koran for the last 15 years and he knows all that it says? Wake up Coptic Clergy - you are loosing your Christianity to appease the others in your country. The Koran should not be quoted from a “Christian Pulpit” as evidence. That is what both and many others are doing!

“You are quoting the teachings of Nastour to the world - ?!—-???!!!!?ian??”

What you forgot my fathers and Lords (assyadna) is this: Christ is A-Z, you don’t need other religions after Christ came. Is this not why we fought Arios, and Nastour
Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Revelation 1:11
saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Revelation 21:6
And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Revelation 22:12-14 (in Context) Revelation 22 (Whole Chapter)
If you have the Alpha and Omega (A-Z) you don’t need other books to quote. Especially if that other book said: “ma salabuh wma qutalohu inma shubih lahum” and also said that “kazab alazeen quallu ana Issa Ibn Mariam Ibn Allah” And: “Ya-yuha al Nassara (followers of Jesus of Nazareth) khafu allah wala taqulu an Issa Ibn Mariam Ibn Allah ….”

So, Nastour on their mouth (because it was “koran” i.e. oral teachings is speaking against the divinity of our Lord and you my church leaders (clergy) are quoting the oral teachings of Nastour. Shame on You! You don’t deserve to be called a Christian (follower of Christ). You can call yourselves a “Church” - a body of believers in something! but it is not Christ - You are believers in yourselves, worshipping your ancesstors and your living leaders when you kneel to each other. Lord Have Mercy! This is not Christianity, it is Churchianity and Coptic, meaning Egyptian Cult is the only description. By the way that is what the Encyclopedia Britanica Calls the Egyptian Church, a cult. We fought for the last 40 years (since 1965) to remove this title but you are bringing it back on yourselves.

Now here is what St. John the Beloved of Christ: Apostole and Evangelist said about he who denies Christ (The Son of God):
1 John 1:3
that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
(Where is the blood if one says “ma salabuh wma qutaluhu?”)

3. 1 John 2:4
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

4. 1 John 2:6
He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
1 John 2:5-7 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

5. 1 John 2:9
He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now.
1 John 2:8-10 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

(What did the Church do with Fr. Abdelsayed, refused to pray on him. What did we do with Fr. Shenouda anba Bishoy, we exiled hin since 1988, and most recently we accused Fr. Matta Al-Meskein, a blessed Father of Monastecism and one of the great theologians of the last 60 years a heretic. Who is the heretic? The pot calling the kettle black? etc. )

6. 1 John 2:10
He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 1 John 2:9-11 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

(we (the Church) became a stumbling block to hundreds, even thousands of others who grew in the Church, we criticized them, exiled them, evected them from their homes and stopped paying their salaries and to a young woman the wife of a priest, only 2 years in priesthood asking how she and her husband and 2 children can live - the bishop replies in perfect english: “It is your problem!” by the way she solved her problem - her husband now is a Protestant Preacher based in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Just in case you all don’t know!). What did the Church do to the departed and forgotten anba Aghabious, we called him crazy and put him in isolation. We exiled many anbas and abounas and the list is long and very well known and most recently a name Amonius and Mattias were added!

6. 1 John 2:11
But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
1 John 2:10-12 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

(We heard the highest ranking bishop say in a lecture recorded on tape and I quote: “Zakaria Buttros (without titles) /awez at? lesanuh, Makary Younan (w/o titles) madakhalsh al-maframah, we Armeia Bulos (w/o titles) hayodkhul al shwayah. No wonder they call this bishop in Egypt: Anba Be-yeshouy)..

7. 1 John 2:13-14,17
I write to you, fathers, Because you have known Him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, Because you have overcome the wicked one. I write to you, little children, Because you have known the Father. I have written to you, fathers, Because you have known Him who is from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, Because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, And you have overcome the wicked one. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.
1 John 2:16-18 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

(Here the Apostole is advising the youth to obey the fathers, but more important the fathers not to drive their young to anger, frustration, and disbeleif through harsh treatment. Something my beloved Church hierarchs need to contemplate and act according to the words of the Apostole rather than the ways of their cruel world that is the result of living under one dictatorship or another in the last 60 years, 2 generations of Egyptian miserable dictatorships: Abd-el Nasser, Mohammad Anwar El-Saddatty and now Mubarak the president of Masr El-gadidah.

8. 1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
1 John 2:22-24 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

Do we know now who the anti-christ is. It is any person anytime that opposes Christ and His teachings. It is not Nuclear Science. We know who he is. He existed from the begining. What we are supposed to do is to oppose that liar and not befriend him.

And now comes Ramadan, and we will start again these tables of lies all-over the country. Wait a minute. Mr. Clinton learned the lie and started doing it in his second presidency. And guess what: George W. Bush was never called smart. He is following in the footsteps of his predecessor.

Now, I come to an important point: In a lecture at Cairo University, HHPS III was asked about Sha?rawy? Where he is less than a year after Sha?rawy died. HH answered with a very clever single line: with his good friend whom he loved. Now I answer where my Church leaders will be. Of course with their good friends whom they have chosen to be with. And “haza kafi ya Abd Al-kafi”

But the good news of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, for us poor helpless people from the old ages that still are trying to keep our faith in Christ while the majority of our people are saying: Issa Naby, Moussa Naby!” is this “Moussa was Naby - archprohetese” but Issa, do you mean Jesus Christ the Son of God - Is not naby- because He is the Almighty God Incarnate (borin in the Flesh). He is more than anything in the world. HE IS GOD IN THE FLESH: “And the WORD BECAME MAN”

(A-Z) 9-Infinity 1 John 2:24-..
[ Let Truth Abide in You ] Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. .. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. .. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

[ The Imperative of Love ] In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous.
… We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. .. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. .. Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. …Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
.. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. — In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Islam refuses every single word here.

1 John 4:14: ..
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.
Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also. Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.
Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:6:..
[ The Certainty of God's Witness ] This is He who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.
He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son. And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

[ Knowing the True-Rejecting the False ] We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
1 John 5:17-19 (in Context) 1 John 5 (Whole Chapter)
1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
1 John 5:19-21 (in Context) 1 John 5 (Whole Chapter)
2 John 1:1
[ Greeting the Elect Lady ] The Elder,To the elect lady and her children, whom I love in truth, and not only I, but also all those who have known the truth,
2 John 1:1-3 (in Context) 2 John 1 (Whole Chapter)
2 John 1:3
Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
2 John 1:2-4 (in Context) 2 John 1 (Whole Chapter)
2 John 1:7
[ Beware of Antichrist Deceivers ] For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2 John 1:9
Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
I could have said: Fathers and Brothers, Sisters and Mothers who are going astray because you are trying to appease/please others because of a gain or out of fear: “Read the First Epistle of St. John the Beloved of Christ 100 times then start over because you missed the mark bigtime in the last 10 years.”

For us to be true Christians, not walking corpses that are not sure where we are going, because we can end up with the world friends and not the heavenly friends: The Disciples, Apostoles, Martyrs, Confessors, Saints and those who pleased Christ, we have to be careful and walk the stright path towards the Narrow Gate. He will be with you every step of the way. And the Glory is not to men with big hats, or women with big halos, but is always was and will forever be to The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. One God. Amen.

William Hanna

I have written, submitted, and had accepted an article about “Romantic Runaways VS Religious Kidnappings in Egypt.”

It appears in the following magazine that you can buy online (in print or PDF format). If many people make comments about my article, they may offer me a column..! (Hint, Hint! :-)

The link to the magazine can be found HERE. Thank you for your support! God bless!
Salib

Vote For Sally Bishai

October 4, 2006

There is a magazine who had contacted a friend of mine last month, searching for accomplished people to interview. After reading their past interviews, and discussing it with my friend, I have decided that the best person to represent the Young Coptic Movement will be Dr. Sally Bishai. This has nothing to do with the fact that she accepted an article of mine to appear in her magazine (I will put a separate listing for this momentarily), and everything to do with the fact that she is everything they are looking for–young, accomplished, ambitious, relatively high profile, and Middle-Eastern. This is what their site is: The Cultural Connect and you must choose “Mid-East Connect” from the menu. Then email them suggesting her.

Here is a brief bio to help you out (this is what I sent to them):

“Dr. Sally Bishai is amazingly accomplished for a 28 year old. She is the author
of several books, 2 of which are about Middle Eastern Culture (they were
featured, I believe, in Forbes Book Club Online), she has made several
documentaries about her homeland of Egypt and also human rights, she is the
hostess of her own web/TV program (who has featured such guests as director
Keith Beauchamp, Activist Dr. Saad El Din Ibrahim, Writer Mona Eltahawy, among
others), she edits two popular “underground” magazines (X-Culture Magazine, and
Photo X Quarterly), and she even finds time to be a weekly columnist for several
newspapers. She teaches at a prominent Florida University. I do not have her
phone number, but I believe you could do alot worse than this young lady!”

Sally’s website is sallybishai.com.

Hi, I was born in a Pakistani family in the UK. I was a major fundamentalist Muslim. I had absolute faith in Islam and I loved it very much. However after reading the Koran a few times I started to wonder about some of the verses. There were things in the Koran that were making me nervous, also the many stories about Mohammed were also cause for concern. The conquest and subjugation of the Jews was rather disturbing, so to was the rape of many women. I didn’t want to believe this and i started to say to myself that these stories are lies. However the thought of my faith was eating my mind, slowly, slowly i was being torn apart by this dilemma. I finally wrote down some of the problems I had with the Koran and the story of Mohammed. I went to mosque and asked the mulavi sahib about these issues i had with Islam. He tried his best to explain but its like I knew that he wasn’t going to be able to justify some of the atrocities committed by Mohammed. However the part where he got stuck was the Aisha question. How can a man of more than 50 years old have sexual feelings for a girl of only 6! After he gave me a dissatisfactory answer I just went quiet and walked away. I was out the door and I looked back, He looked at me and he put his head down… I think he knew I wasn’t going to come back. Since then I have been rather heart broken as I have lost my faith. Islam is a falsehood, a pure hoax. I felt that I might as well believe in Santa clause or the boogie man! I wish I could believe again, but as a normal and respectable human being I cant believe in a man who is a pedophile! Simple as that. I can’t comprehend the fact that a man of that age can fantasize about a 6 year old, and then have sex with her while she was still playing with her dolls! And why is it that a woman is lower than a man? is my mother lower than me? why is it that a Muslim can have 4 wives? can a woman not have 4 husbands then? and why did Mohammed have more than 4 wives? doesn’t he believe in practice what you preach! Also how can I believe a man with such low moral character? how can I believe in a man who does things which I myself find abhorrent and disgusting, a man like him today instead of being in a mosque would actually be in prison with a 7 year jail sentence for rape, and child molestation/sexual abuse. For the cultural reasons given for this act (by the so called scholars) of Mohammed’s marriage with a 6 year old are irrelevant! No SANE man in any time or place would have sexual fallings for a baby! This is reason enough for denouncing Islam. For this man is not from God. And Islam is just the ramblings of some delusional Arab mad man. All this religion has done is cause pain and misery for the world. Especially India where the mass murder of Hindus was unforgivable. No country suffered more than Hindu India. As for other religions at least the so called enemies of Islam such as Sikhism, Hinduism and Buddhism etc., don’t have their religious leaders doing such disgusting things or being complete hypocrites! I’m still a right wing, conservative but I’m not a sucker and I’m not gonna let this nut case ideology ruin my life anymore. Even Jesus wasn’t anything like this fiend Mohammed! I’m just glad I got out while I could, and I just hope that all the other Muslims finally get their facts right and come to their senses. They should DUMP this evil satanic cult immediately, and do with the Koran as is done with all other piles of useless TRASH! - commit it to the FLAMES! Any way, thank you for your time,

Ahmed K.

P.S. Apology to all those Sikhs and others i fought with and got many a bloody nose for the defense of this pathetic cult, forgive me, thank you.

www.mychristianblood.org

72 Virgin(ians)

September 21, 2006

From a friend..

Abu al-Zarqawi died, George Washington met him at the Pearly Gates. He slapped him across the face and yelled, “How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!”

Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, “You wanted to end our liberties but you failed!”
James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, “This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!”

Thomas Jefferson was next, beat al-Zarqawi with a long cane and snarled, “It was Evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration of Independence.”

The beatings and thrashings continued as George Mason, James Monroe, and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the terrorist Leader.

As al-Zarqawi lay bleeding and in pain, an Angel appeared.

Al-Zarqawi wept and said, “This is not what you promised me.”

The Angel replied, “I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in Heaven. What did you think I said?”

A misguided soul who thinks he knows more than the “prophet” (peace be upon him, because he REALLY needs it, and so does the modern world, whose awful state is the result of his egocentric and perverted “revelations” from “Allah,” who would probably strangle his most “holy” prophet if he had a chance) put the following comment in my “Mohammed vs Michael Jackson” posting (see my responses in the square brackets):

Rush Says:
September 13th, 2006 at 10:08 pm e
unfortunatly u dont seem from ur articles to be a person that read anything about islam..why dont u TRY and read prophit mohammeds history a LIL bit before u attack a holly prophit as if u have personal issues with him?

[That's rich! *I* didn't read about Islam?? If you DO NOT have personal issues with "the prophet," then it is YOU who didn't read about Islam, my friend!]

u comparinga holly prophit to MJ?? WHATS NEXT…TUPAC SHAKUR VS JESUS CHRIST COMPARISONS??

[No, Jesus actually practiced what He preached, whereas MOHAMMED PREACHED WHAT HE PRACTICED. Yes, he changed "allah's" decrees to suit what was happening to him (mohammed) at the moment. If, in fact, 'allah' DID make those decrees, then 1- Islam is actually and truly about Mohammed more than 'allah,' and 2- THIS ALLAH MUST BE A DOLT to base a faith around a perverse man that I wouldn't even let to be the doorman in my house, much less the high priest of an entire, world-dessicating religion.]

for real man..i wont even go low to ur level…

[You couldn't hope to reach my level, hon..]

cuz fortunatly for u…unlike most muslims now..i studied my religion RIGHT…and we respect all prophits and religions wether u like it or not…and those idiots who claim to be muslims that act different and show hate and violence towards Christians even if only verbally WILL be punished in life and after death…because in reality, muslims have to protect all christian civilians living within an islamic nation and must treat them equal to muslims and they must be given the freedom to practise their religion in peace..

[By your words, you seem to be a caring and friendly and devout individual.. why would you dedicate your life and your soul to a false religion that will only end up with you in hell? Please, brother, I BEG you to read the Koran once, all in one sitting. If you don't want to waste the time, I don't blame you, but scroll down to read the verses that prove you wrong in your claim that Islam=peace.]

so those muslims u keep referring to are not true muslims..

[All the sheikhs aren't true Muslims? Fascinating. Why don't you email someone from Al Azhar and tell him that, I'm sure he'll love it.]

just like hateful christians like you who attack other peoples religion are NOT real christians either…i dont think christianity pushes u to disrespect other peoples free will and religious believes…

[Ya Rush ya Habib el Koll, I am not hateful. I am speaking in a sad and resigned manner. My heart is breaking that you believe in a false religion.]

i know and respect UR religion more than you….so stop wasting all our time with this stupid ignorant BS…and people who are wasting time arguing with this air head who has no time t even back up his stupid stories with any evidence…let him go…

[1- here is evidence below (scroll down) and 2- YOU just wasted your time too in replying to me, so why don't you practice what you preach? Or are you like your prophet in that, too..?]

he will lose his motive with lack of attention
BE GONE
salam

[I mean this 100%, but salaam to you too. Please scroll down, though..]

((((((((()))))))))

Just in case the switching above was confusing, here is an alternate reply from me:

Thanks, Rush, here’s hoping you won’t “rush” to judgment and that you will read what I have to say. First of all, I happen to know the Hadith and the “holy” Koran better than most Moslems could claim to.

If YOU knew it as well as I did, then you could not claim that Islam is a religion of peace unless you were either Mentally Retarded, or if you skipped the following verses (read ‘em and weep.. Actually, we’re the ones who weep when we see that you really and truly believe this TRIPE called Islam!)

FROM your own scriptures (NOT the Hadith, which some don’t accept as the word of Allah):

Verses from the Koran:

VIII/12: When thy Lord inspired the angels (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

IX/5: Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor- due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

IX/73: Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil’s heads) - the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

IX/123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

IV/144: O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

IX/29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

VIII/65: “O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.”

And in terms of Islam’s Treatment of Women:

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will…

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness …confine them until death claims them.

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

[To men only, apparently..]

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies…

[Wow, even-handed there!]

Sorry, I wanted to pull out every filthy ‘verse’ in the Koran, but 1- I don’t have all year, and 2- I just had an excellent dinner, which is making my stomach immensely pleased, and I would rather not lose it..

J.A. Salib, I read your article about blacks, who turn Muslim… First of all, you have no idea what you’re talking about so you can’t stereotype all Muslims by seeing some Muslim family in Egypt. For your kind information, the first man who said the “athaan” (prayer in the mosque) was black.

“1: To the Moslems, darkness is evil” … What the hell are you talking about?! Half of the Muslims in the Gulf and in Africa are black! Why would we think that dark people are evil?! Sorry to say this, but you really must be out of your mind… you should go and double check your information before writing an article and telling people what religion to choose and what religion not to choose!!

“If only she was lighter”?! This is a very racist remark… I am a Muslim; I don’t think that white people are superior in any way! Please think about what you’re saying next time…

No offense, but you don’t sound very sane to me…

F.
Bahrain

Salib Needs Your Help!

June 15, 2006

To my loyal friends, readers, brothers, I have a request: I need more people to visit my site and learn the TRUTH. I need more people to spread the articles here, whether I wrote them or did not. These thoughts and words need to be heard.

TO THIS END: I ask you to forward this site to any of your friends that may be interested.

Suggest the site (or an article) to whatever site you think would be interested. You can even post my link on your blog or republish my articles (Not sure about the other articles I post on here, but I can’t imagine they’d mind, since they send me these articles!) in other forums, sites, or wherever.

Your supportive and constructive comments here are always appreciated, and so are the wonderful emails I receive daily.

Thank you again for your interest in my site, and may you be blessed today!

Salib

Welcomes

April 10, 2006

Hi and welcome to Neferteeti and Hany. Look forward to reading more comments from you both!

Where are Freesoul and Muhammed??

I promise I will reply to your copious comments of last month, but I am still travelling and having a hard time being online for long.

God bless you!
Salib

To the nice girl:
Thank you for your suggestion. I do, indeed, have a camera. If you promise me as much traffic as Big Pharaoh has, I will start to post pictures.
;-)

To Mark, el safel ebni safel ebni safel:
You really and truly don’t deserve to share the name with the veritable father of our church, the Blessed Father Markos. What filthy, “shaware3″ language you use. I am insulted, and I’m sure that anyone with half a brain also will be insulted to hear what you have said in the comments section recently.
Why so angry? Why such filth? If you’re trying so hard to be Western, you should understand freedom of speech. If you don’t care a hang for the rights of Christians, then stay out of the debate. I mean is this even appropriate?


“bala jesus balla god. khaleena fel donia. ta3ala garrab ezazet black label baba gabhaly hedeyya fe 3ed milady. meen el weleyya el habla di. tela2eeha akhadet fe tezha 3ashan te2ool el kalam dah”

Do you want me to sink to your level? Alright.

“Hablet eh enta bass? Enta’lli ahbal. Heya mesh me7tega takhod keda 3ashan heya shoge3a aktar mennak melyoooooon marrra. Black Label ehhhhh ya 7abeeb el nabi enta?”

There, does the appearance of your type of language and hobbies make you happy, street king?

If you don’t like my point of you, then kindly make way for the paying customers. Ma7adesh sagalak for your negativity and counter-productive argument.

You know, I’m sure you’re very popular with secular Christians and Moslems, but it’s people like you who give Christianity a bad name.

May God forgive you for upsetting me, for saddening Him, and for your uncouthness.

Blessings
(you need them more than I do!)

Salib

My dear brother. I am sorry for having taken this long to answer you, and I will combine my responses below. To Mohammad, my other brother, I am still working on a viable response, but it is coming.

My friend, Of course it is of no use to ask people while you have already formed your opinion, yet i will try to transfer my point of view to you

No, of course there is a use! How can we grow if we do not engage in the intelligent discussions?

1- any religion is just a unique experience of each person, my islam is not like the islam of my friend, the religion is affected by the humans way of thinking

I say this in love… you are not a true Moslem, Maged. In a way, I thank God that you were saved from a thirst for blood and a hate, but a true Moslem will think that a Christian–even a good one–can never go to heaven. Also, a true Christian is marked by the fact that he can only accept JESUS CHRIST as the WAY, the TRUTH, and THE LIFE, No man can come to the Father (God) but through Him (Jesus)!

Christianity is a religion of moral absolutes. Jesus is the ONLY WAY you can enter heaven, according to the Bible. Even praying to Mary, His mother, will not get you there.

god will not visit you in your dreams and tell you what did he mean by his text, it is only you who have the responsiblity to understand his holy texts and hence it is affected by your mind and your background

This puts you in the driver’s seat, doesn’t it! What if I am retarded mentally and cannot understand? Will the god suddenly be nicer to me than to, for example, a genius as yourself? There is no divine sliding scale of salvation and after-life retribution!

2- in islam, there is no reason to kill anyone at all unless he tries to kill you or fight you, and if he stops then you should stop too, this is my understanding for the holy texts

Boy, you are really not a true Moslem! :-)
(I believe you are so in error about the holy text, then! You can’t apply
” 3a2l ” and rational and modern or even humanistic thought to your ’scriptures,’ dear brother. As Dr Wafaa said, this is really a barbaric and outdated faith… I have to modify her words, however, because the teachings were never NOT outdated! That is to say, they were wrong the from the first day they were printed! The Koran is ” ghalat fy ghalat! “

when a country falls in the muslim hands muslims pays “zakaa” which is amount of money that will be spread on All poor people, muslims or not, on the other side not muslims should pay “gizya”, this money is not forced of you if you don’t have money, it means you have to pay if you have the money, i don’t think this is strange, you pay your taxes, right?

Well, I think this is interesting the way you put it… I was under the impression that if you don’t pay the jizya you get beaten up or your head is taken by the sword.. but maybe I (and the thousands of villagers in Egypt who have been beaten up or worse) am wrong!
Also, what is wrong with collecting the same tax from everyone and distributing it evenly? Why segment the population like this? Aren’t we divided enough? Don’t the Copts do a good enough job of dividing us by the simple use of their name? Unity is a good first step to fixing the nation, but this does not mean that we can gloss over truths, such as the validity of any given religion.

3- anyone who kills any man, muslim or not muslim without a reason (the only reason i know in islam is for another death crime or defending himself in deadly situation), if a muslim commit that crime then he will have the worst punishment, if you don’t know our prophet -PBUH- said that if any muslim hurt any non-muslim in an islamic land, he himself will be against him in the after life before god, he will support the non-muslim to take his right from the muslim man

Well, if it truly says that, I’m sure that the “prophet” changed his mind about it at some point. Also, even if this is what he meant, I don’t think that it is carried out! At least, not in Egypt!

that is the justice i understand and love in islam!!

Ya habeeebi, you are so misguided :-( Even more than the true Moslems, you have a very sunny outlook on the faith, and I think your Moslem brothers would disagree with your feeling that each man’s Islam is different.

Islam, like Christianity, is based on teachings. (The same teachings, in fact! Only your prophet must have fallen asleep when he was on one page, and picked up on another page, because–for one author, he certainly mucked about a great deal!)

Enough from this old post. Let us now move to the new post from today, 22 March 2006.

if you have something to tell me, post it on my blog or send it to my mail, i would love to continue this discussion :)

I look forward to a lively debate! You must promise me that we will end up friends who disagree, however, rather than enemies! :-)

I really pity you because you think you have the truth!!

Well, this is one of the things I love about Christianity! We CAN know where we will end up in the afterlife. We DO HAVE a cure for the spiritual cancer, and that is Jesus Christ. How, then, can you pity me?

thinking that you knwo the truth you will never work really hard and open minded to obtain it, you will always be satisfied with what you have which leads to nothing but what is inside you!!

What I have leads to the Cross! I work very hard, brother, and I struggle daily to live a life that is marginally pleasing to God. I know I fall short, I know that, without the cleansing and precious Blood of His Son, I will never be able to approach Him, the Father. But the sacrifice of Jesus creates a bridge, a Holy Bridge to the Father, and allows me to see Him and stand before Him, sinner though I may be. Ahhh, the freedom and the mercy and the comfort I have, knowing that He went to all this trouble.. Just For Me!

I don’t belive I know anything and that is why i spend my time in seeking the truth, on the other side you are spending yoru time fighting to prove that what you think is true, good for you

Thank you, Socrates, that is very comforting, and I, too, know nothing! BUT I know someone who DOES KNOW EVERYTHING, because HE IS THE ONE, the Holy and Precious One who made everything! I think you have a bigger with Christians than with the Bible. I don’t blame you!

I do have a question, by the way… Do you consider a pious and Good Moslem who is very devout and would never consider another way… do you consider HIM to also be like me, ignorant and set in his ways?

I am not sure whether you object to the fact that I am not actively seeking another way to truth (since I’ve already “found it”) or if you object to the fact that I am part of another religion.

Does this mean you are only happy when you find people who are unsure of their faith, and who even question the great Koran? You may have freedom of thought (to a certain degree) by admitting that a good Christian is better than a bad Moslem, but I don’t know what will make you happiest?

A: A person who blindly follows Islam
B: A “free-thinker” who follows his own interpretation of Islam
C: A free thinking soul who believes that the Koran is wrong, but followed the five pillars
D: A free-thinker who is unaffiliated
E: A Christian who interprets what he likes, who DOES NOT convert to Islam, but who puts credence in the Koran
F: A person who puts in 90 years on earth, never settling on one religion, always seeking an elusive truth until the day he died, and never stuck to any one religion. At least if he chose one, he would have a chance of salvation in that one religion..!

just by chance i came by your post few hours after i posted a related topic on my blog!!

” Al7amdolelah! “
God sent you to me! Please consider my comments and I look forward to continuing this when you have a moment.

May God open your mind to His absolute, timeless and un-changing truth!

I just pressed “PUBLISH” but then reread my previous post.

I come across as a rabid, anti-Islamic and hateful individual. I did not mean to be. I let myself be influenced by the influx of rhetoric that has recently (today) filled my inbox, and I am sorry.

Moslems aren’t losers, they’re misguided. I really feel very bad for the sincere ones who do all the five pillars, and pray so much and feel like they have a good relationship with Allah.

They will have a big surprise come Judgment Day, and I hope that they will find the truth before then!

They aren’t the only people who will have a problem come Judgement Day, but there is a huge number of “Good Moslems”–such good people who think they’re following what is actually a false religion–who remind me of the Emporer in the Emporer’s New Clothes.

They think that they have clothes on, but they really don’t.

The Moslems think they have salvation, but they really can’t, because Allah doesn’t exist, and Mohammad is not his prophet, both because you can’t be the prophet of something that does not exist, and because no god in his right mind would ever choose such a bloodthirsty and perverted hellion to be his ambassador. Unless this god was the head of the BDSM universe, or something like this.

I am working on a manifesto to be distributed to all the “Secular Moslems” out there, so that they can know what’s going on, and save themselves before it’s too late.

I am sorry again for sounding like a prophet of doom and being cruel before.

Forgive me, pray for me, and love me, your fallen brother, that’s all I ask of you!

I have added a recent article by Magdi Khalil below. PLEASE REALIZE THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL HIS POINTS. In fact, from what I have seen of him, he is paranoid and neurotic, and most of the Copts agree. He is, though, a very thorough researcher and for that reason, and for the interest of free speech, I would like to share this article with you.

WARNING: This article also seems like a platform for Magdi to blast Michael Meunier. I disagree with this tactic, I think that all advocates should work in the best interest of the cause, and people should not focus on silly things, which they are.

Then again, the Copts can be a whiny lot, and fight amongst themselves for silly reasons, and just so they can have something to fight about and to cry that they are the victims.

I would like to publically thank Mr Meunier for all of his work, and also Mr Adly Abadeer, and ask everyone to take their gloves off and stop this silly dispute. How can the government take us seriously if all we care about is what Michael Meunier had for lunch?

This is a very quick response, and as previously promised, I will dedicate an entire post to everything Muhammad has previously commented on, point-by-point.

Today’s Comment:

“God is one for all religions. The Father God is the god we worship and the gods jews worship.

While I can’t speak for the Jews, Muhammad, Your Allah and my God are two separate beings. I can say this because I believe God is the Father of Jesus Christ, and 1/3rd of the Trinity. If you agree that this is the case, then you would be considered Apostate by your Arab Moslem brothers. I can guarantee that to you. Also, from my limited knowledge of Jews, I know that they will never accept to say that they worship a god who is part of the Trinity. Since they don’t believe that Jesus is the Messiah, although Moslems do call Him that.

Hey Salib. Why don’t you talk abou christianity. Please post some good things about salvation. How jesus will purify us from our sins. At lease you will be rewarded more by God other than insulting other religions. Christians are tolerant and Jesus is love.

You call me to truth, Muhammad. I am so glad God allowed you to find my small and humble writings. Jesus, as Christians believe, purifies anyone who accepts Him AS THEIR ONLY LORD AND SAVIOUR and cleanses them from their sins. We believe He died on the Cross, and, as the only Perfect Human, was accepted as the Sin Sacrifice that the Old Testament speaks of.

Christians are TOLERANT of everyone–meaning they love everyone, but they can NOT AGREE WITH THINGS CONTRARY TO THE BIBLE. You may love me, Ahmed Salib, but you likely disagree with everything I’ve ever written. You tolerate ME, but you are INTOLERANT of my beliefs. Any good Moslem would be intolerant of my beliefs. It is what makes you a Moslem and me a Christian :-)

WHERE IS THE LOVE in you posts? GOD IS LOVE, JESUS IS LOVE, MUHAMMAD IS LOVE. IF WE ALL LOVE EACH OTHER WE WILL LIVE IN PEACE. I am offering you friendship and love. The real love. Love of good, love of god, love for others.

Again you call me to truth. I am trying to get used to the online thing, and to come across in cyberspace as I do in reality. I accept your offer of friendship, and have loved you from the day you first wrote to me, Muhammad. I thank you for your friendship.
But it is this love that prompts me to tell you of the cure for spiritual cancer, the solution to a life of intentional or unintentional sin. The only solution–indeed THE way, THE truth and THE LIFE can only be found through the person of Jesus Christ.

I have to tell you, Muhammad, if you can honestly tell me that you believe I will go to the Heaven in the next life–believing what I believe (ignoring my “sins” of bombasticity, and pretending I lived a relatively Holy Life)–Then you can’t be a True Moslem. A moderate Moslem is No Moslem At All. Osama ibn Laden is a shining example of Islam. He may give the religion a “bad name,” but it’s an accurate picture of the religion. Don’t be angry with me for saying this. I am speaking in love, as one who was saved from the Darkness myself. I pray for you every night, Muhammad, that you will see the beautiful light that is a life in Chris Jesus!

JESUS DIDN’T DIE ON THE CROSS FOR US TO INSULT OTHER FAITHS.

You are so right, and I am remiss. But that’s another thing, Muhammad Habibi, ISLAM CLAIMS THAT JESUS WAS REPLACED BY ANOTHER, AND NEVER CRUCIFIED. You’re right, He did not die for me to be bombastic, but He DID DIE on the cross, and HE DID PAY FOR YOUR SINS.

I have a great amount of respect for you, brother, and look forward to your next communique.

Please think on what I have said, and until later,
Salib

Love Me, Hate Me

March 10, 2006

Would like to share the following comments that I have recently received. Thank you to all the people who write in!

I agree with you a 1000% , I have read many books from DR Robert Morey who qoutes the QuRan as well well as the hadith and all the inconsistencies of Islam. like ADAM was 60 cubits tall, the devil lives in your nose at night, and on and on, its outrageouis any one could even begin to follow this Islam, Please continue your writings they are right on!
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Dear J.A. Salib, MD:

I just read your blog posted at dated today, March 9th, 2006 entitled “Maybe I Don’t Want To Go To Heaven!” and I could not agree more. Thank You!

It’s encouraging to read posts and blogs such as yours and realize that not everyone out there is crazy (only the extremists: both right and left wing). Your blog was forwarded to me in Alain’s Newsletter (which I get in my email), and although I don’t agree with everything in their Newsletters, I certainly agree with you.
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Being a kenyan i have witness where light skinnned somalis look down on African black kenya who are moslems and infact they would not let the blacks to led the prayers instead they would rather have light skinned somali man.
Secondly i observed we had a bid fight over who should be imam in a local mosque which had black imam and they would not let the lack leadership of the mosque there is where a see the superiority over the blacks even though all say they all umma of islam
I have had black people who goes to work in middle east are treated badly though muslims ,its ttue lets treat others equally
thanks

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Are there not different types of moslems and not just Arab moslems? They are not the only ethnic group that advocate islamic beliefs, correct?

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Dear Dr. Salib,

thank you for your interesting Article! I’m on your way in religion. If you can and it is possible, please translate tese article in the german language for a better understanding.

All the best for you and your work!
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And, the comment that wins the “This Takes The Cake Award” for this week,

“Go Back To Africa!” from the eloquent and articulate “Gary.”

Thanks again for these comments, and the Grace and the Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with You now and forever.
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